Some of you may remember my post about deciding whether or not I wanted another Chocolate Lab or a Weimaraner. I have had a lab before - but loved the coat of the Weim. Eventually I chose to go with the Weim, but now I have found this.... http://hosting.northernweb.net/silverlab// I have read that the silver lab is not a true lab and that it is a cross of a lab/weim. According to this kennel - they offered a $100,000 reward for anyone who could prove that theory true - no one has claimed the reward. These dogs are absolutely beautiful! I have to have one! What do you all think of this kennel?
Buy one if you like them. Those are Weimeraners, I don't care what they say. My first dog was 1/4 weim. 3/4 lab, best dog I ever had until this last 4 yrs...I now have Labs this smart. I like weims, the x is good for a pet. They have maybe not been up front to AKC though.
Yea I was thinking the same thing. They look crossed with weim... only thing I dont agree with is letting them go at 5 weeks of age. Unless I read incorreactly. That is really young. just my opinion.They are really cute.
lilp - you are correct on the age thing......and I was concerned about that myself. To me, the body structure looks nothing like the Weim......these dogs are more blocky. I don't want to buy intot he next new fad - but gosh they are beautiful! Also - if they were mixed.....wouldn't someone prove them wrong and claim that reward?
Silver labs are actually a diluted chocolate, and yes, they are purebred labs, not lab/weim mixes. There was another thread on the subject some time ago, but finding it could be quite a chore. If you have questions about the purebred status of silver labs, talk to Minniyar; she knows about them and even posted a link to an AKC statement about them. The kennel you found, however, lets pups go when they're only five-weeks-old. When pups leave their mother and siblings at such a young age, they don't learn important socialization lessons, so they can be more difficult to raise than a pup who leaves at a later age. The website also said that they hand out the pups on a first come, first serve basis rather than trying to match pups to owners' needs. I wouldn't recommend buying from this kennel.
A chocolate looks like a wannabe black, I don't see what you are saying. I have bred Labs for 30 yrs. The pups must be at least 6 wks. before they go, between 6&9 weeks they learn fair playing w/ their sibs so they are not then vicious...
I agree with you on the age thing; I'm sorry if that wasn't clear. I don't remember all the details on how the silver color is created, but the AKC registers the dogs as chocolate. They're allowed to compete in all of the AKC events except conformation shows. Like I said, Minniyar has all of the scoop on silver labs.
The pups are adorable...the older dogs are okay but a lil to thin for me. yea you are right Ansy if they were mixed someone would try to prove them wrong...Thos pups are so tiny, But I would definately see where you wuld want one, they are just adorable! And the color is beautiful as well. I dont know much about the silver so I would like to hear what Minniyar has to say so maybe I can learn something...
So then why not just say something like -"You know....I really don't care for those dogs"? Of course she has a right to an opinion.......but there is no need to present it in an 'ugly' way. If you do - you'll get an ugly response. If I wanted opinions like that I would have asked "OK.....I think these dogs are beautiful......what do you think? Are they pretty dogs or ugly dogs?" Instead I was asking about the kennel.
NO dog is ugly. These dogs may or may not be what is said about them. As I said... THE best dog I had, KATRINA was a cross between these breeds. I do not sanction the cross breeding in today's times...
It scares me to death to think about shelling out $2500 for a pair of these dogs when I cannot 'see' the kennel. I have only found two kennels that have silvers. The other is in Puerto Rico and screams 'puppy mill'. I surely hope they use Puppy Escrow. I don't know what I'll do if they do't. I just feel so uneasy about buying dogs on the net - and the price of these makes it that much worse. I have looked for many months now and cannot find anyone local to me that has these dogs. Local meaning within 3 hrs driving.
I love labs, of ANY color. We had a great girl that I've mentioned before, Sheba. Beautiful girl, we bred her once with a stud bref drom the same kennel with equally impressive bloodlines. She had 6 jet black and 1 little pure white (turned yellow of course) pups. Both Sheba and the stud had yellow and chocolate in their lines. I agree that these are labs, pure and simple and that the color is a variation of the chocolate. As for shipping pups at 5 weeks, it's not only unethical, it is against every airline policy I know of! Sheba's pups, like Angel's all these years later, did NOT leave my home before 10-12 weeks of age.
Ansy, I think you should get one, just not from this kennel. Way too expensive and the 5 week thing worries me. They go for like 500-600 where I live. I remember your silver lab post because you said you liked labs and weimies and I asked you if you had heard of the silver lab. Hehe, sorry for getting you hooked! :) I really like them too. And from what I have learned, they are not a mix. They are a rare gene in the lab color. I know that the min pin has that rare 'blue' gene as well. Right now, it does not conform to AKC standard, BUT it is considered a type of chocolate lab. So they are purebred and have the papers to back it up. Breeders of labs don't like people breeding these types of dogs because the color is not allowed in the show ring. It's a disqualifying color, so to them, they are not breed standard. And they're right. But then the whole 'they're mixed' thing starts to rumor about. But there also are people trying to make them standard too. So it's kind of a cat fight battle. I say if you're not going to use it for show, but like how they look, you should get one. Do you have sportmen warehouses where you live? It's a company that sells everything hunting wise. Like Cabellas. That is where I see Silver Lab ads in my state. In the front they have a bulletin board that says lake conditions for fishing, and pictures of hunts, and also for sale ads on hunting dogs. I've seen silver lab ads there.
What a beautiful color! Ansy...I'm not sure where you live but I found these four kennels online that advertise Silvers....I really didn't read through each site carefully, so I can't vouch for how reputable they are...just thought you might want to take a look: North Carolina: http://www.tntsilverlabradors.com/pages/1/index.htm Texas: http://www.silverlabs.com/index.htm Indiana http://www.billcrabtreesilverlabs.com/index.htm Arizona: http://www.redrockranch.net/silverhomepage_001.htm