ahhh....whoever you are who just posted above me....my dog needs a balanced food which isn't too high in protein and foods which contain purines. Other Dal owners have recommended this brand to me. I think 'you' may be misinformed.
For the love of.. Hasn't this stupid peta post been put up enough? I've looked at the PETA one and I've seen the letters from IAMS and read the ASPCA's report and about their cooperation with the IAMS company to prevent crap like this from happening ever again. The ASPCA board members regularly do unannounced visits to all IAMS research facilities and make recommendations that are to help make the aniamals that go through any testing as comfortable as possible. http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iams http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iamsstatement And that story about Iams using female beagles for cruel and unusual research at Auburn University? Yeah. Ok see, I LIVE in the city of Auburn Alabama, less than a mile away from the AU vet school campus. I can assure you that that is one of the biggest piles of drivel and BS PETA has put out... and they've put out a lot. I'm on a first name basis with three AU vet school professors, and a number of graduates of Auburn University College of VEterinary Medicine, including my own vet. The professors assured me that once again, PETA is perpetuating more lies in it's campaign against Proctor & Gamble and it's company IAMS. http://www.iamstruth.com/iamstruth/en_US/jhtmls/article/IT_Article_Page.jhtml?li=en_US&pti=RP&articleID=6 Be sure you read the adobe letter from Iams to PETA regarding that stupid beagle lie. Enough is enough already.
Oh yeah, and dogs can digest corn the same way humans can. They can't digest the cobs, or the cellulose exterior of the kernels, but guess what.. neither can humans. Corn is a carbohydrate, dogs can digest carbohydrates. Rice is carbohydrate. So is wheat, barley, and all other grains.
http://www.iamscruelty.com/ It looks like the ASPCA started doing these unannoucned visits (starting April 2003) after Iams was accused (PETA investigated 2002 - early 2003) of this cruelty. If I remember correctly, when I emailed the Iams company about this accusation they did not deny that the care of the animals kept in one of the facilities was not up to their expectations and has since been closed. They also claimed that they were unaware of the conditions of the animals at that facility. IMO, there is some truth in PETAs
Okay, I do not remember who it was that said how should the pet food be tested or whatever it was. I personally do not see how you can accurately test food on animals that are stuck in cages and not leading a normal life. All of the people who have sporting dogs know that a dog that is kept in top physical condition needs a different type of formula then a dog who just lays around all day. Why is it so hard to see that you would not get accurate testing if the dog is in a cage all the time? There are MANY dog food brands that do NOT test on animals, I personally prefer to see what works best for my animal(As do all of you) and see it pointless to kill and hurt animals just to see what changes are happening. I do NOT support any type of animal cruelty. And one other thing, why would you believe what IAMS would say? Do you think that they are just going to openly say' yeah we kill animals all the time!"
PETA = Propogandist Extremist Tall Story Activists. If you are looking to PETA for the "truth". You have more issues than whether or not to feed Iams to your animals. These people consistently manufacture, fabricate and perpetuate lies amoung numerous industries. If Peta had thier way we would all be Vegan, hemp wearing, Bike riding, Utopian living freaks. Being an animal lover I unfortunately have the vision to see the instances wear animals being tested on is useful. And before you start telling me all the truths Peta has uncovered in the past, save it. I have been involved with and known MANY Peta insiders, and it's all inflammatory drivel. I have seen thier recruiting video's and talked with people part of the organization who's sole purpose was in coaching people on how to twist investigative findings to exactly what PETA wants the public to see. There is a use for animal studies for drugs and vaccines. The wholesale slaughter of animals to prove that mommies new lipstick or eyeliner is ok is rediculous. Sorry...touchy subject for me.
katz = did you read any of the links minniyar posted ? it seems as though from the ASPCA reports, the animals are exercised 5.5 hours a day. so they are not stuck in cages all the time. i would imagine that for most of our pets, 5.5 hours a day playing and socializing with other dogs is not the norm. i would not neccesarily trust IAMS statement over PETA but i most certainly would trust the ASPCA's statements over PETA's. do you agree with all of PETA's thoughts ? i think they may have at the beginning of time been out for animal welfare, but that is not the case much anymore. they are also behind the banning of pit bulls.
Good point, Scout1. PETA, for all their talk of animal love, strongly supports breed bans and 'humane euthanization' of pit bulls. Go figure. Read the grey box toward the bottom, an official statement issued by the PETA president. http://www.badrap.org/rescue/PETAA.cfm
Katz................Let's turn that around. Why would you believe what Peta has to say? I would certainly take the ASPCA's word over their's. Why would it be different to test food on a dog in a cage, as apposed to a dog runing free, if that is the only food you gave them. I don't know if the dogs are in cages, because I have never been to where they are located. This horse has been beaten too many times. I remember a few days ago when a woman wrote in about breeding, that you posted how many times this has been discussed, and it should be just dropped. The same thing applies here. Believe what you want, and allow others to do the same.
Okay, tell me this....how can you exercise as many animals as they have, 5 and a half hours a day? That alone sounds like a load of crap. And before anyone wants to get into it about how PETA supported the banning of pits....The ASPCA also supports it in many cases. This is stupid to argue about. I personally will never support animal cruelty. Most of you would say that if someone performed animal cruelty in a vicious manner that person should never own an animal again, but yet they get second or third or more chances?? That doesn't sound right to me. I am not against all animal testing, I am against cruel, inhumane, and pointless animal testing. The results should end up with a healthy well looking dog not a chopped up scared dog. I have little respect for the ASPCA. I think that they have lost touch with what they are all about. (Not all areas but the main ones definitely). I am done argueing about this, but I will continue to never support animal cruelty. And I will continue to give my pets the best food available, provided there is no cruel animal testing. I think of it much like a puppymill, anyone who buys from a petshop does not think of what made that pup come to be, the dogs and bitches still in cages. If you buy from them you are supporting their supply and demand, think about the dogs and pups and cats that made it so your dog can eat "such wonderful food". IAMS and all associated with them are a waste of peoples time and should NEVER be supported. It is just a legal way to be cruel to animals. That I will never support, and I hope that you won't either.
Scout1, after you posted that I had to go looking around on PETA's site for their take on BSL.. get this. Is this a pile of crap or what? "Certain dogs bred originally for fighting, like the "pit bull" breeds, can have additional problems. Pit bull terriers were originally bred to fight chained bulls and bears. Today, they are frequently used by drug dealers to guard drugs and money, and in inner-city fighting rings where they often die very violent deaths. Few good homes are open to dogs perceived as overly aggressive. Breed-specific legislation (with a "grandfather clause" for those dogs already in existence) can be an important tool in ending the tragic exploitation of these breeds. "
Katz............... I have already told you that I have never visited where these dogs are housed, so I am not about to say they do not exercise these dogs 5 hours a day. I DO NOT know that. Exercising was not the issue, it was testing food. If you support PETA and all they do, are you supporting them in banning Pit Bulls? The bottom line is that the people on this forum have been informed, so I do not think there is anything more to say.
I never once said I supported them in all they do. I support many shelters and rescues but yet there are very very many that will euthanize even baby pits just because that is what they are. I do not support that in the least bit. I love pits. Well, obviousely you can do as you wish but I will be happy knowing that I NEVER supported the cruelty of those poor animals. Even if IAMS has changed, which I do not believe, but even if they had, they still do not deserve any support. The ASPCA is as much to blame about the pit bans as anyone else.
yeah i agree minniyar ......biggest load of horse pucky i have ever read. i have looked al over the aspca site and no where did i see where they are fo bsl. it seems like they are working in conjunction with the akc against bsl. everyone should be against bsl. whether you like pits or not. once they ban 1 breed in any country, province, state or town, it will become easier to keep on doing it with other breeds. the fighters won't stop, they'll just pick another breed and irresponsible owners will always be irresponsible, doesn't matter what they own.
Alright. I will stop but I have one last bit. Here is a link, please watch the video in the middle. You can take it as you wish. . . http://www.stopanimaltests.com/ I also e-mailed PETA and asked them to tell me what there stance is on BSL and the pit bull banning. I read what Minniyar wrote and I saw it in there, and they mentioned, all 'pit bull breeds', not just specifically american pit bull terriers. So when I get a response back from them I will let you know what they say.
This is a reply to Katz...I understand your view on "Pet Shops", you say people shouldn't buy from a Pet Shop because you will be supporting a puppy mill, but regardless of where the puppy came from, those babies need homes too. So what is so wrong with taking home one of those poor little babies? They ALL need homes, whether from a Pet shop or a rescue or fom the newspaper, or wherever! Once they are born they are here to stay and all should have a chance at getting a home.