ok, i've posted on this quite a few times, not alot of response, i'm sorry if it was getting better, i wouldn't continue to post, i have a small dog, he's 5lbs, and he's 6mos. old, quite recently began doing submissive peeing, which i realize is my fault due to my frutstration with him, however, this am, i took him outside, i knew he had to pee and poop, he peed, then proceeded to bark at the dog next door, the entire time and wouldn't poop. so i kept putting him in his crate, finally he proceeded to poop in there, i didn't yell took him and it outside in the pen, however he didn't whine, i had no idea he was pooping. Yes it is a large pen, as when i had him in the one where he can only turn around when he does the excited or submissive pee thing, he soaks the pad i have in there, the reason i have a pad in there is he would be laying in urine, and i would bathing him everyday, i am at my wit's end, i need some helpful responses, PLEASE!!!, he sleeps with me in my bed.
I don't know if you're working, but in case you not, can't you take the dog out about every 2 to 3 hours (he should be empty than). It's just a thought. He is still a young guy (doesn't know any better). Don't give up on him ;-) Nicky the wirehaired dachshund http://www.dogster.com/?86824 Benji the golden retriever http://www.dogster.com/?86827
Get rid of the pee pad. Sitting in the pee is uncomfortable, that is what teaches them to stop doing it. And get used to bathing the dog until it is housebroken. Don't put the dog on your bed until it is housebroken, if ever. Have a crate you can carry to the back door if the dog does inside, put the dog out at the door clean the crate, then return the dog. If the dog doesn't do potty, it is not given enough time outside? A lot of the time they poop after they eat. Feed the dog outside and see if it does business after that, they usually are thirsty after they eat too.
i hate to say this but for the most part it is true. small dogs are extremely difficult to housebreak. with certain small breeds such as bichons being the most difficult. i am not sure if you are doing anything wrong from what i remember about your posts. one thing i would do which you may be doing already is walking your pup on a leaash so he doesn't have a chance to bark at the dog next door. you can give him a tug with the leash and say get busy so he learns he is out there to potty and nothing else. the submissive peeing is not a house breaking issue and he will grow out of it, you just need to give him time. i haven't heard of a dog yet thas has not grown out of it. you may need to go back to square 1 with strict crating and only being allowed out to potty then straight back to the crate. if he didn't poop the first time straight to the crate and then out every 15-20 mminutes til he does go. always on a leash and straight back inside when he is done. if he has gone both ways, then allow him playtime with another potty break in 15 minutes and back to the crate. quite a few people i work with have the small breeds and it is quite a common problem, and unfortunately in small instances, a permanent problem.
Yes I work, and when i do he is at my daughter's house, he didn't have any accidents for her yesteday, except some submissive peeing in kitchen. Yes I think i'm going to go back to the small area in the crate, with nothing under him, and he hates baths so he will get bathed each time, he never ever goes on my bed, and sleeps 8-10 hrs without going until morning, i started him sleeping with me as I was getting NO sleep and hubby is on dialysis, and he whined all night. Every hour, and he can't deal with it.
I have a min pin that is now 6 lbs. and 3-1/2 months old. She would get too distracted outside to go unless it was early morning or at night when there is less noises to distract her. She also did not like to go in the grass when it was wet and cold. I have gone to strictly using wee pads inside. She is finally like clockwork after 1-1/2 months. It took longer to get #2 down. When I took her out of the crate in the morning or when she whined at night I would put her on the pad and tell her to go potty and keep putting back on the pad until she went & then good girl & she gets a treat. I am no expert but it has worked for me. I also would tell her no if she went in the wrong place and then take her to the pad & tell her Go Potty Here. Submissive peeing I have no idea unless trying to empty your puppy's bladder more often would help. I am sure someone else here could help more with that.
I have to say that one thing that helps a submissive pee'er is not to fuss over them. Don't go straight for him giving him too much attention. Let him come to you. Its just too overwhelming for him. Sort of like pressure or fear. I did that with our dog and know people that have done it with theirs and it helps. When I first got my first dog Rufus everytime I went to pet him he would roll over on his back, like he thought I was going to do something to him. I started just ignoring him when he did that and he changed his tune. I let him come to me, he was always ready. But something just froze up with him when anyone aproached him. He was about 1 year old. He did the submissive pee thing too.
I have a dog that at almost 2 is starting to get over the submissive peeing...It was so cute when she realised it was her that got her wet. She would crouch when I approached her, then she would back up a bit, and ever so cautiously, peek underneath herself to see if she puddled. If she did, I would tell her: oh, what is that? She has figured out the pee came from her and is pretty good about holding it now.
One thing you need to remember is that a small dog has a very small bladder. I have a Bichon and have had it pretty easy training her. I don't work a certain amount of hours, so I had the chance to take her with me to my office while the training was going on. I would start over at square one. Take the pup out every 1-2 hrs. Don't come back in till he has did he deed. Give treats right away and make a really big deal of it. Use a high pitched voice and say good boy went potty. I would stand outside with her and the second she went, we praised like crazy. I used the term "hurry up". I think the neighbors think I'm a crazy women. But it worked. If she didn't go, we didn't come back in. Didn't matter if it was raining, snowing or anything. Keep track to the times he "goes" and how long after feeding. It will help you keep him on a schedule. Use the crate when you aren't able to keep two eyes on him. As far as the submissive peeing...try and ignore it. If you make a big deal of it...it will get worse. It is really hard, but do try. Give the pup a chance. You don't expect a child to get potty trained right way and they have accidents too. You have to train your self to watch for the signs. I belong to a Bichon forum that might be helpful to you. it is; http://bichon.ca/cgi-bin/bichon/YaBB.pl check out the behavior and training section. Hopefully that will help.
i think a strict food and water schedule so you have an idea when he may go, outside at regular intervals, lots of praise and a small treat when he goes outside, always supervised indoors, starting at the beginning with housetraining. maybe too the litterbox idea indoors would work, forget outdoors.
I don't know, i maybe getting to the litterbox, if going back to square one doesn't work, I got him a small crate, there is a divider in it, i have given him just enough room to turn around in and lay down, however he doesn't sleep in there, he sleeps with me, but when i'm gone, he will be in there for 2-5hrs, tops. Is this enough time, for him to think he shouldn't go in there?? Last night he went on my daughter's couch!!!! He has never done that before, he's getting fixed on Tues. and she has 2dogs?? Then i put him in the crate and he pooped in there, and peed in there also, after I had just taken him out, I don't know what to do??
I only read a few of the replys sorry. What shocked me was the fact that you would even consider getting rid of someone because of this. I had a child who was not fully potty trained until almost 4. Yes, I was at my wits end but consistency seems to be the key. You do not show someone the door because of this. It is a commitment that you assumed when you took him in and unfortunately you need to deal with it. Sorry for sounding harsh but so many people dump their pets because of something annoying they do and they just want to give up for their own sanity. If that were the case my kids would of been gone a long time ago. Yes, true children and dogs ----not on the same level for most, but if you get a pet which becomes now a family member you need to either deal with the problem of fix it. Your best bet is to start the whole potty training right from scratch. This may take up to two weeks depending not on your dog but you! Which means that when you have something like this to deal with you make it your main focus for some time. Start taking him out every 1/2 hour to 45 min. First thing in the morning, after it eats, before naps and after, before playing and after. Use the same words ALWAYS and praise praise praise even for the smallest twinkle. Also, getting a vet to check him for any infections would also not be a bad idea.
I may get jumped on for this lol, but i wasn't getting a response to my other posts much, and i am at my wit's end, an accident or two doesn't bother me, i just clean it up and go, my hubby gets rather perturbed, and he does watch him occas. i made the caption about getting rid of my pup, because i knew it would get attention, sorry, if that offends anyone, I would never get rid of him , although i do want to choke him sometimes. LOL.
i don't know if he would be able to be litterbox trained in one place, and outside trained in another, if he's not getting it at all now. i would keep him tethered to you at all times when you are home, to catch him in the act. and have your daughter do this too. scoop him up and get him outside when he starts to go. with him tethered to you you'll see him start to go. one thing about small dogs is that your home is like a football field to them and they can go somewhere and easily escape it, unlike a big dog. don't even leave him in the crate when you are home. praise and a treat when he goes outside.
Only problem with tethering him to me, is i'm constantly moving around and it's easy to step on a 5lb. dog, you know, so if i know he's gone to BR, i usually gate him in the kitchen with me, or in LR, or in small hall landing, and close all door, i have a leash upstairs and downstairs.
ok, i have now got him in a very small crate, just enough room to turn around and lay down, when i come home ignore him, and bend down and let him out and walk to the door, then when he is outside instead of bending down over him i use the door, to put him in pen, when he is done, i praise him, hold a treat in my hand and have him walk in the door, so far very little submissive or exciting peeing, this am he was crated and hadn't peed for 4hrs. son in law went to get him and just tiny bit of excited peeing. BUT, last night he tried to poop on my CHAIR, he lays up on the back of this chair in front of the window, he hopped up there and started to poop. I grabbed him, took him out and did the above stuff, but there was no warning, if he is leashed he will usually stare at me, but since in was watching him, he as allowed to be loose in LR. The other day i came in and out 3 times, every time he started to jump i went outside again, lol. I found if i let him walk outside, he doesn't pee, as he does when i was carrying him. Even when he layed down in front of door yesterday, i was like oh, oh, but he didn't go until he got outside.
Crate, Crate, Crate....My dogs #1 and #2 all over the place used to jump and lay in it...Id go to let them out in the morning and would be almost to tears because of the smell and mess of my house...I just kept on the crate training...and now their almost 6 months and they never mess on floor or in crate....they just have to realize they have to lay around it when they do.....just make sure you take him rite outside when let out of the crate.