I don't think it is to painful for most dogs.. It is like shot the little thing is quite small. BUT I will say it is not painful to MY pugs. They a have such think tough skin . The babies never even yelp when getting their shots!! I think because they are so used to pullen and tuggen and biten eachother when playing . It would take alot for one of them to hurt LOL Jubilee
Health Problems....Everyone that has heard me talk about purchasing a Pug has told me of the serious medical problems that they have. Has anyone else had serious medical issues with their pugs? Also, I've been hearing a lot about pet insurance. How effective is that?
ncraven, what kind of health problems have you been told about? if you have a good breeder who is careful about what dogs are bred and does health testing you should be okay. there is the patella and soft palate issues. and they should be CERF tested yearly. the breathing problems are from the short nose, they can't go jogging or on long hikes, or be too physically active. just running around the house and yard and some moderate walks are what they can take. for microchipping i read in dog fancy or somewhere there are now 3 microchip companies. to read the chips a place has to have the "wand reader" thingy specific for that company. so, my pug actually has 2 microchips, an Avid and a HomeAgain. it's not standard for a breeder to put in a microchip at all. some do. what mine does is put in a microchip and always leaves her address and phone number on it, she doesn't change it to the owner. guards against people dumping her dogs in a shelter.
I found a breeder in Llano, TX www.hillcountrypugs.com. She has black pugs which is what I wanted. They look more gray than black whereas the black pugs I have seen have a shinier black coat. What do you guys think? Are the black pugs supposed to look gray when they're babies and then change to a shinier coat? Also, this is what she's offering....excerpted from her e-mail to me, see below...Does anyone have any thoughts?
The puppies are $600. That includes their first set of shots, worming from 3 weeks of age until they leave our home, a vet check by our vet, which is a small animal specialist, a vet check health guarantee, and life time support for your pug. You also get peace of mind, knowing you are buying your puppy from a reputable breeder and not a puppy mill or someone who isn't going to be there for you the day after the sell. Oh... we also include a puppy pack with food and toys and a folder of information and medical records on your puppy.
she sounds very loving, but i would want to know if she does OFA testing on patellas and CERF testing on eyes of the parents of the litters. that is to make sure the parents haven't developed problems, and you can't tell by just looking at them. that would be a requirement for me to purchase from a breeder. about the black color, mine was black black from the start, it may be the picture quality on the website. the good things are that you can visit at any time and she will always be available to you for help and questions. i also would want a health guarantee for up to two years since genetic problems aren't obvious until dogs get older; that's me, not everyone feels that way.
Help!!! I think I may have found a good breeder. I asked her a list of questions recommended by Pearl (thanks), a few others, and from different websites. I'm going to copy and paste the e-mail between the prospective dog breeder and myself. Will someone PLEASE read this and let me know what you think? Again, I'm a first time pet owner and I'm very nervous about this purchase. I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.
From: Kristy Pfister [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:17 PM To: Craven, Nicole 000 Subject: Re: More Pug Information
1. No... we do not have their hips or eyes certified. Most of our puppies are 3rd generation now and we have not had a SINGLE genetic or hereditary issue in our years of raising pugs. We started out with very nice pugs and have only built on those and have continuously improved our lines.
2. We give a 72 hour vet check health guarantee, but we stand behind our pugs regardless. If a genetic issue came up with one of our pugs 2 years down the road, we WILL be here for assistance or resolution.
3. We will gladly microchip your puppy upon request.
4. ALL of our pugs are AKC registered, our males are DNAed, and we received a PERFECT score on our AKC inspection.
5. I have MULTIPLE references of people who would be more than happy to talk with you. We do not advertise our pugs, we place 99% of our pugs from personal references. You can go to most of the larger pug sites in the Austin area and you will see Hill Country Pugs referred left and right.
6. We require a deposit of half of the purchase price, to be made in the form of your choice.
7. The black males that are currently available are co-owned, so we would not have both parents on site. If you would like to wait for a litter that is owned fully by us, then you are more than welcome to come to our home and visit our us, our facility, and our two black pugs. Our black female is currently in heat and we will anticipate a January birth. I work at the Police Department, Monday thru Friday, 8 to 5 and my husband, who is a Police Officer works from 2pm to 11pm and is currently working 7 days a week. We live in the country and I am in a wheelchair, so for this reason and safety issues in general, we do not allow people to come to our home unless he can also be there. So, we would need to schedule a meeting sometime on the weekend and in the late morning.
Okay... if you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
I am not sure if we are going to be the right breeder for you, as you have asked some questions that are normally only asked about dogs that are going to be shown or bred, or those pugs that are in the $2,000 range. We breed EXTREMELY healthy pugs and I think just about ANYONE who knows us and has adopted one of our pugs will tell you that. If you are looking for a pug to breed or show, then I can tell you that we are not the right breeder for you, as we do not sell for breeding, and we have not yet established our show line, so at this time we do not sell them as show quality.
I will be happy to help you in any way that I can, I am just not sure if we are exactly what you are looking for.
I am attaching a forum posting from our Austin Pug Club website. The last posting is a DFW Pug Rescue representative. I think it says a lot when a rescue group rep supports your breeding practices. After he visited us, he emailed me and told me that he fully understands that there is a need for responsible breeders, such as ourselves, in the world. He said that he understands that a rescue pug is not right for everyone and he thanked us for being such great, responsible breeders, who care so much about our dogs and the breed. It really meant a lot to us....
I can also forward you an email that was sent out to the pug yahoo group about two weeks ago. It was someone asking for a reputable breeder and the responses that came from Hill Country Pug owners. She was also contacted by several others by private email and finally had to put out an email saying that she had already contacted us and had been placed on our waiting list.
Just let me know if we can help in any other way or if I can provide you with any other information.
"Craven, Nicole 000" <Craven.Nicole@corp.sysco.com> wrote: Hi Kristy:
I am very interested in a black pug. I have a few questions:
1. Do you perform OFA testing on patellas and CERF testing on eyes of the parents of the litters?