My Boxer is being treated for hookworms I bought him and he was infested the lady I purchased him from is crazy and says he did not have them when I got him. I got him on sunday and took him to the vet tuesday to find this out. she tells me he was on the heartguard and that prevents them, I am reading that if he had adult hookworms the heartguard will not kill them he needs to be treated seperatly. Does regular wormer do this or does he have to be treated by the vet personally. I am ready to go to court, now I signed a contract and I swaer my hand that it stated nothing about releasing them from medical problems and that it said nothing about taking him to the vet within 24 hours. She says she has a lawyer that is basically for her breeding, but then why was this "contract" written on a peice of steno notebook wouldn't a good lawyer draw up the contracts for her? My dad was a civil lawyer for a year but he is not much help. I think she has added to this contract since I signed it, and still she did sell me a dog that was infested by worms. He was also diagnosed with crystals could the anemia have caused this? He only weighs 61lbs you can see his ribs and his spine he was urinating blood and hasn't acted like a dog since I got him here. Should I pursue this in sm. claims court or let it go? Is it worth the hassle? Please any advice is good advice even if you think I should deal with it.
Don't let it go because an investigation could come out of it, which could result in further actions being taken against her, especially in regards to how she treats her animals. This could stop her from pulling the same stunt on other people. She's obviously not that familiar with the law or she would have had a lawyer draw up an airtight contract for you to sign. This can also be problematic because your contract could be full of holes. I'm also worried because I'm under the impression you don't have a copy of the contract you signed? AND you're under the impression that she's added clauses since she's signed, I'm hoping that there was not enough room on the page for any of her additions. Does your father have a colleague who can offer some cheap legal advice? I'm not that familiar with American law but I would go ahead if you can financially because it sounds as though the odds are in your favour (I think 3000 is all you can sue for in small claims). Don't let her intimidate you either with her lawyer talk and threats. I do not believe that a heartworm treatment can prevent hookworms but there are so many different types out there that can treat different ailments, although I'm pretty sure hookworm's not one of them. I could be wrong though. Please keep us posted on how it goes because it is breeders like this that need to be stopped dead in their tracks. I hope the condition of your puppy improves too. Good luck
you need to have worming medication that is specifically for hookworms. they can be very tough to get rid of. you may need to worm him several times in order to get rid of them all. i wouldn't trust anything this woman tells you. also you need to treat your yard or wherever it is that you allow him to defecate as hookworms i believe can contaminate the soil in which he can keep re-infecting himself. the crystals do not cause anemia but the hookworms most certainly can. if his hookworm infestation was severe enough to cause anemia he has had them a very long time. not just the three days you have had him. crystals can turn into stones forming in the bladder which cause an irritation which in turn could have caused the blood in his urine. your vet can determine whether he has stones in bladder by doing a simple x-ray. i would try to seek compensation from this so-called breeder. you will need documentation from your vet attesting to all his medical problems. don't let this woman bully you around. hope your baby is on the track to being well. best wishes.
I am just so ready to cry because I should have been more careful I am just too trusting of people. Now I am loosing money she won't even refund me the money I payed for the dog that's all I asked in the first place. My dad wouldn't remember anyone because he had just finished college and was drafted for nam that's why it was only a year. I have talked to a few lawyers my only problem now is paying tham and getting her to send a copy of this contract I should have gotten a copy I just trusted her. She hasn't even sent vet records to prove he had a fecal before I got hi, she says he was at the vet but if you guys would have seen him my vet said he should not have been sold, her vet should have advised against it. I should have taken one look and turned right around and not gotten him but I have wanted another Boxer for so long I was blinded. He was diagnosed with crystals and is on special food for that, but if the hookworms cause him to be soo malnurished and sicly would that have brought them on. I didn't change his food I bough what she had been feeding him and made sure my daughter didn't feed him table scraps he may have gotten a couple bites, but is that enough. Could he of had them when I bought him?
Boxer Girl: I have a 13 week old boxer. When we took her to the vet, she had roundworm and hookworm. I was so upset to find this out but he said it is common in puppies. My puppy was wormed by the breeder but she still had them. Roundworm is very easy to get rid of, hookworm is not. It usually takes a few doses of meds from the vet to get rid of hookworm. Hookworm should be treated with meds every two weeks until its gone and I would not purchase the worming meds from a pet store. Your dog needs worming meds that should come from the vet. The vet gave us some type of med that treats both roundworm and hookworm. If I can remember correctly its called Drontal. Hookworm can cause anemia in puppies and dogs. I hope you get things straightened out and your dog starts feeling better soon.
Sounds as though he had the hooks when you purchased him. It was good that you took him to the vet as soon as you did. How old is he, how many other pets were in the home where you purchased him? If there were more, they probably all have hooks also. If she had him on heartworm preventative, he wouldn't have them. Heartworm pills prevent against heartworm, ringworm and rounds,and hooks. They just do not prevent against tapes. That takes a special medication. Did your vet put him on K/D Science Diet food for the crystals? No, table food would not give hooks, he had them. Not sure what you can do, since you don't have a written contract, but in most states a verbal contract is binding. I would find out as much as you can about her (as a breeder) if in fact she is one. Go to a local vet where you purchased him and see if they have a record for this person and when and if she took the pups in for all their puppy vaccines and to be dewormed at least 2 times before selling to anyone. Good luck, keep us posted.
Does anyone know what I can buy for my yard to keep him from getting reinfected? I know hooks are common in puppies my dog is 1 1/2 yrs and he didn't have a few worms he was so infested that he was annemic. looking at him he should weigh a good 80lbs and he is only 61. I am just so didsapointed that this lady calls herself a good breeder because I it were me and she bought him from us I would offer to give her money back. She says I had 24 hours to get him to a vet but some people have a life I didn't have the time to run him straight to a vet and I don't know what kind of vet she has but most times you have to make an appointment and can't be seen right away.She is trying to hold me acountable because he almost didn't get treated on tuesday, my vet wouldn't hold a check and I didn't have the cash on hand, what was I supposed to do rob a bank?
I agree with the posts here, try and find out which vet she used if you can in order to find out if your dog has been treated. I think in civil court you can represent yourself and avoid paying a lawyer but it would be good to get some advice and get someone to look at that contract with you. If you can, pursue it so that this doesn't happen to anyone else. I feel so horrible for you and what has happened. Good luck and please keep us posted.
well she isn't local and that's the problem I am having she lives in Tennessee I am in Florida, in florida we have a pet Lemon law which states if within 14 days from date of purchase I take him to the vet and he has internal parasites then I am intitled to a refund and my vet bills. I don't know if they have one up there, but I have talked to a few lawyers and they have all sided with me. But if she has added anything to this contract it's my word against hers right? In the long run I might loose, if they let it stand. But if she sold me this dog under the impression he was healthy doesn't that void the contract?
oh one more question she is telling me it's only for puppies but I was told otherwise.....If any animal is tranfered (by slae) across state lines it should be accompanied by a health cert. He did not have one, I got the dog his leash and his papers.
Hookworms take more than 2 days to get set in the body, he had them long before you got him form her. I definitely think you should take her to court over it, assuming you have the money to do so. I've never heard of a breeder that required you to take the dog to the vet within 24 hours of purchase, the ones i've seen have required it within 5 days of purchase. And if she wrote out hte contract on a piece of steno paper, that's not what a lawyer would do, or even a good breeder. It sounds like she's hoping to intimidate you into just giving it up, but stick to to your guns. If she's done this to you you can be pretty sure that shes done it to others. It also sounds like she's making up new rules as she goes along. First it was take the dog to the vet within 24 hours, then she says that oh that only applies to puppies, we dont have a health guarantee for adults? that's so bogus. BTW heartguard has ivermectin in it, and that is supposed to treat and control hookworm as well as heartworm. Interceptor heartworm medicine does as well. However I suspect that this assumes the dog doesn't have hookworm when you first start giving it, as the little devils are hard as heck to get rid of. The fact that the dog *does* have hookworm says to me she wasn't giving it heartguard at all, or at least not giving it consistently. Hookworms take about 17 days to go from egg to mature adult, she's a total liar if she says your dog got it after he got down here. Here's some links to hookworm info. http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/PARASITES/hookworms.HTM http://www.drpetra.com/Dogs/Hookworm%20Infection%20in%20Dogs.htm
I am a licensed vet technician and I'm just wondering how old is your boxer? If it is a puppy, that could be one of the reasons he is anemic. Heartworm preventitive like Interceptor and Heartgard do help to prevent intestinal parasites as well as heartworm diasease. Interceptor in my opinion is the better choice out of the two. I am also wondering why your vet did not put your dog on deworming medicine, such as Panacur or Strongid? That should take care of the hookworm infestation. Also make sure you clean his stool up immediatley after he goes, hookworms can travel from the ground through the bottom of your feet and animals paws. Talk to your vet if the dog is very sick.
hi guys talked to a few laeyres this morning got my papres from the people in tennessee to file complaint against the breeder. What an awful day it was yesterday ran out of gas on I-75. Well sfter all I have learned legally we have decided to file complaints and let everyone else out there know what she did, because I can win in court, but she still dodesn't have to pay.
I can take her to court and they can tell her to pay but if she doesn't then she doesn't and I have to take her back. The way I see it is I'm already out enough money why add to it. I got the dog and that's what I wanted. I told her before I had payed the vet to send my my money back and I'll drive up there and drop him off so she can deal with it she didn't want to do that, but last night she e-mails me says ok we'll send you $300 and come pick him up. Right like I'm going to do that now that I have payed the bills. She's like maybe we can work something out with a puppy, like I actually would trudt her to give me a healthy puppy when she couldn't give me a healthy dog? I'll keep him and deal with it.
Hopefully if we can get him into shape by this summer we'll enter him into a couple conformation shows. Because of all he's been through I don't plan on breeding him for a year or so, just show him for awhile. I am concerned about this too I was thinking last night maybe she got rid of him because he wouldn't or couldn't breed. Is there a way I can have him checked? We have a canine semen bank here in florida but they don't do anything like that, I asked. I mean is it just trial and error to find out? She had told me they had bred him a few times but I haven't seen pictures or proof. She didn't even do any testing before they bred him. I plan on doing all that, have already started. Now I have been told by numerous breeders it is not nessary to reg. with OFA they should be tested for hips, but the OFA is not a big deal. One of our bitches was but the other was not, should I go ahead and do it with him? Any opinions would be great. I just hope I didn't get a dud! Thanks guys!
I work in a veterinary clinic and I have some information about hookworm that is directly from the Heartgard website at www.heartgard.com It reads as follows: Hookworms, like roundworms, are parasites that live in the intestines of infected dogs. They feed on the intestinal wall, causing significant blood loss. Though not as common as roundworms, hookworms are potentially more dangerous, especially to puppies. Severe hookworm infection can lead to anemia, debilitation, and even death. Signs of hookworm infection may include weakness, weight loss, diarrhea and pale gums Hookworms may be transmitted to puppies while still in the womb, or to nursing puppies through infected milk. Hookworms also may be transmitted to puppies and older dogs through materials in the environment that may be contaminated with eggs or larvae. Talk to your vet, but there are many different types of wormers that treat specifically for hookworms. I suggest worming for the adult worms first and then follow up with a heartworm preventative that contains a wormer for hookworms such as Interceptor or heartgard. We have had very good luck treating these infestations at out clinic. I found this website to be very helpful. Go to http://www.drpetra.com and search under dog topic for hookworms. Good Luck
Given his suspicious background, you should do all the testing you can on him, OFA, CERF, and thyroid to name a few. Regarding him being a poor breeder, you're just not going to know one way or the other until he is in good condition and worm free, many things can affect sperm count and poor health is definitely one of them.