Well, there is nothing wrong with Molly's leg. She stopped limping the next day and the vet agrees she must have hurt her self jumping around like she does and pulled something...but there is nothing that he sees. Pugs Lee is just old! Sight and hearing are going...and possibly just a weak bladder from her age and all she has been through. I suppose now the ball is back in my court with her. Russ is still adamant about getting rid of her and I keep putting it off. I wrote a huge letter to the Ohio Pug Rescue and I have no idea what happened but it didn't go thru. I was so angry because I spent forever writing it and I didn't copy it or anything...just a sign to me that I need to keep her, but Russ just doesn't agree. I tried to send that email last Sunday...I managed to hold off for another week....think i can keep this up forever?? lol I doubt it. But I am trying.
Hi Gina....Pugs Lee is ruining our house. I had her almost trained but then it is like she doesn't care.....Russ is furious over her. He wants her gone like yesterday. We can't afford to replace every carpet in our house and that is where we are headed with her here. I cry thinking about getting rid of her because her life has been so horrible and now she is so close to me. She protects me, follows me, wants to sleep at my feet all the time and now Russ says she's gotta go. I know we can't keep her. I feared there was something physically wrong with her bu the vet says she is just getting old. She was bred alot and mistreated by her former owner. She is so spoiled here and I fear no one will treat her like I do. Especially with her problems. It is hard to deal with, but I keep teling my family she is a living creature!!! I mean, geez, if they get old and have issues do they want kicked to the curb??!! I am having a hard time with this. She breaks my heart. I just wish I could come across the right person with the right home for her. I can't just let her go anywhere. I refuse to and Russ is pushing me more and more everyday....as he cleans up her messes. Her crate is the worse. She doesn't even care that she goes in it. Anway, I am babbling and venting again and some of you already read my first vent!! lol I apologize....but I keep hoping the right answer will pop up. A few hinted about putting her to sleep but the guilt would haunt me. OH...you asked her age....the vet wasn't sure, but her teeth are bad and some falling out, eyes are cloudy and she can't always hear me...he says she is likely over 10 years old. What is the average life for a pug? I should have asked him that, but have you ever been so upset you couldn't think straight? I just felt like crying the whole time and the brain was mush....(like that is unusual for me anyway)
Why don't you buy her piddle pants / doggie diapers? That's any easy fix. I asume the vet did blood work to rule out any health reasons for her piddling? It will be 2 yrs tomorrow when I had to put Rocky my Pug to sleep, He would have been 15 years old the following week. To dispose of Pugs Lee now would be wrong. It sounds like she stilll has alot of love & energy in her. Shame on Russ for wanting to get rid of her after all she's been through. Rocky's hearing was going & he was blind, had surgery for Cancer that summer. He started loosing weight & no longer was doing his normal Pug clownish things. I knew then it was time. Give her lots of hugs for me & please try the pants. I think Petsmart carries them now. Good luck! Let us know how she does.
Hi Rhinda...I agree about putting her down....it's not really an option for me. Yes the vet did the blood and all. Unfortunately when I am stressed I don't think well and didn't get to ask the "right" questions....I always think of them later. But he ruled out any health problems. She is a victim of noone in the past caring about her or training her. I am afriad the pants might prove useless and messy, it is not just peeing that is the problem. She goes when, where, and how she wants to!! I let her out many many times a day and she does pee outside....I have watched her many times, but let her in and dang if you don't hear the feet scratching the carpet where she just went again. Russ is really a great and caring person....she has just pushed his limits with her accidents. He is a very patient person and has given her quite a few months to adjust but nothing is changing. There really is no changing his mind on this one and we have to compromise somewhere...I have fought to keep her and tried to work with her but I am afraid I am losing this battle. She doesn't seem to care or be willing to listen. Which truly is not her fault. I will consider those diapers and see if we can run out this evening and find some. Perhaps if they did help Russ may gain a little more patience....I fear though he will claim it is just more of a hassle. I don't know. I have to go tile a floor today, will be back later. Thanks for answering though....it helps to talk about it.
I am sorry to hear about Pugs lee I would definitely try the doggie diapers Rhonda suggested. My mother-in law has an 11 year old poodle who has lost control of her bladder and has to wear a diaper all day. It works out fine for her.
MPP, I agree with Rhonda. Get the diapers ASAP. You may be surprised at the stress that will relieve. I believe what you say about Russ being a great person. Sometimes we are backed against a wall and do not do our best thinking. I would hate for the dog to have to be up-rooted again considering his past. I am not by any means trying to make you feel worse. Usually things work out for the best, if we back-off and explore all possibilities. Only you know what those are. Good Luck!
Ohhhh MPP Im sorry about Pugs. I know you are trying everything you can with her. I only hope Russ comes to realize that you do not 'get rid of' a family member when they become old and are not able to help themselves. That is just the way I looks at it. Dogs are fun and great companions while they are young, but it is when they get old that they rely on you and realize that all that love they have given you will now be returned to them in the form of patience and understanding. I hope you can make Russ understand this. Good luck =0)
i agree with the diapers, adn maybe you and russ can strike a bargain here. see if he'll agree to try that for say, a month, and then re-evaluate how things are. hopefully the lack of pee puddles on the floor will help change his mind.
if not, ask him if he'd put you to sleep b/c you were going blind and/or deaf and having incontinance issues.
Harley.....Uh...no...I didn't pick her. I got a phone call about her and couldn't let her stay where she was. I knew I needed to find a home to place her in but she attached herself so quickly to me that we tried to stick it out and work with her. But as I said...I am not the one who wants to boot her. Russ is, and truly he has valid reason. We rent a very nice house and to replace their carpet would be way more than we can afford. I have only tried to do the right thing, but it just isn't working for us. My children are also veyr frustrated and I am the only one who wants to keep her. I am fighting them but each day gets harder. This is why I am upset. I would never just dump a pet....I am not like that. But thanks for your input!
Also...just want to add, Russ was never the one who suggested putting her down....some of us had discussed that before but only if we found she was seriously ill, which I was afraid she was, but I was just being a worry wart I guess. We will only do what would be best for all of us. Trust me, this is a real struggle for me. I know she has adapted to this household because no one is smacking her around anymore and she isn't popping out puppies like a machine! I guess I knew we couldn't keep her from the start but tried. Three dogs in a house rental is a bit much. But I am so soft hearted that I at least tried. I don't know....I didn't start this thread to have to defend myself....I already feel horribly guilty the way it is. I just hope the answer will come to me. I mentioned the diapers and Russ's response was "I don't think so!" But with him I have to give suggestions time to sink in...we are going to dinner and can talk about it more then. Thanks all for responding.....I hate to repeat myself, but when I can talk things out I think more clearly. Thanks.
***Edited By: MyPoundPuggle on 11/21/2004 5:36:37 PM*** Reason: gfsfhsmxvsg
Are there area's in the house that have ceramic floors and no carpet? You can try using baby gates to keep her out when your not able to watch her every move. If she does it even when supervised then you may just have to ban her from those area's all together. We have put up gates to block Aisha into the family room only because she likes to chew the furniture and until she can be trusted she is simply not allowed.
Ceramics or even hardwood are so easy to clean up. Carpets no matter how fast you get to it well....it still shows signs.
Also, the diapers? Several people have already mentioned them but I did not see you responding to that suggestion so I was just wondering if you already tried them and they did not work?
Letting go of a pet because it becomes sick and old is not a good enough reason. It is like putting a old relative in a nursing home because of a few small inconviences. There are solutions to every problem you just need to find them.
I am so sorry. I do know exactly where you are. I have been there myself. It is a very difficult position to be in. I really like Aisha's suggestion about the baby gate. That would save the carpet, and being in a rental I can certainly understand how that would be a bigger problem than if you owned. (Even though that can be a problem too)
If he really doesn't want to spring for the diapers at least the baby gate would be a one time expense.
I am so sorry for the situation you are in. If anything comes to mind I will let you know. In the mean time try to hang in there. At least it's no something medical. And yes, I know exactly what you mean about not being able to think when your at the vet or the doctor for that matter.
One other thing, you do not have to defend yourself. I don't know what the life expectancy is for pugs. I saw someone said they had one that lived to be 15. I don't know if that is the norm or not. I'll see what I can find out.
The diaper suggestion was a big topic tonight. Russ is still not going for it but I think I will just pick some up. What can it hurt??? Maybe he will see a difference in the time I am suppose to be finding her a home!
did your vet suggest putting her on a product called DES ? it is to control urinary incontinence in older dogs. sounds like it would be worth a shot at any rate to see if it helps. it is fairly inexpensive medication, can be gotten thru your vet or a regular human pharmacy and is in capsule form.
please ask your vet for this to try before making any final decisions.
also another product called PROIN which is phenylpropanalomine is also used for the same thing.that comes in a flavored chewable tablet
***Edited By: scout1 on 11/21/2004 11:36:18 PM*** Reason: ?
Scout, that sounds great and might really make a huge difference in her situation. I'm so glad you have that knowledge and saw the post and was able to share it.
MPP, please do ask your vet about this. I bet it's a lot better idea than the diapers and baby gate. Although they did seem like a good idea, a pill wouldn't be such an obvious reminder to Russ that there is a problem. Good luck and let us know what happens.