Here's my question for female dog owners. My male dog broke his chain (choker collar) and was caught by the female dog owner breeding his dog. They live about a block away. His dog was out in the back yard on a chain, not fenced up. He says I am liable to pay for an abortion for his dog, although he didn't ask nicely. I agreed to pay the fees but am I really liable since his dog was out in the open where any dog could get to her. Just happens mine is the one that got caught.
I'm not making an issue of this at all. I am just curious what female owners think.
yes you are responsible for the cost. Your dog should have been properly chained so that this would not happen, or even worse he could have been hit by a car or picked up and took to the pound.Also a responsible step you should have taken is to nueter your dog so that things like this dont happen.
***Edited By: luvmypits on 12/1/2004 8:21:38 PM*** Reason: add
nothing says a dog owner has to have a fence. Her dog was the one in vialation of the leash law not the female dog. The female dog owner is also un-responsible to have her dog chained while in heat. Where I live ac can ticket you for that.
***Edited By: luvmypits on 12/1/2004 8:30:15 PM*** Reason: fix up
I would pay it, since it was your dog who broke free.
The other dog's owner, though, should not have his female chained up in a fenceless yard unsupervized while she is in heat. Ive heard that male dogs can smell a female in heat miles away and will break free, dig free, anything...to get to her.
i agree that the female should be put up in heat but the point is she is in HER yard. if she had came into HIS yard it would be different. or if they were on neutral territory it would be the females owners responsiblity
I had to pay $35 to get my dog out of the pound, the other dog owner called the city, and yes I did get a ticket for my dog running at large. I thought that a heavy duty chain plus a choker collar would keep him up. Actually, he stayed in the house most of the time. When I was gone to work or to college I tied him up. And yes the scent can travel very long distances, I have been doing some research on females in heat.
I am paying the vet bill because my dog was the one in violation. I am just a little concerned that the female dog owner has his dog out in the middle of his yard on a chain only. but then again, he doesn't HAVE to have her penned up.
hoochie a strong leather or nylon collar will work much better than a choke chain. choke chains are for training only and not designed for chaining like that. a strong nylon will last longer and are stronger and will not irriate your dogs neck as bad. also as an aside tell the neghbor that once he gives you a copy of the vet bill you will go pay the vet or make him write you a reciept stating what the money is for and pay him with a check and write on the memo line what it is for. that little extra trouble may save you money in the long run.
wow...chained out in the open while in heat???? What were those people thinking ??? Did they expect she WOULDN'T end up being bred?? I wouldn't be surprised if yours wasn't the FIRST dog to get to her. However, yours was the one that was caught with her so you are liable. You may want to consider neutering your dog.
my family's weimeraner got knocked up by a neighbor's dog, and my stepfather paid for the abortion as it was he who let the dog out unsupervised. while i think it is up to the individual owner to accept the repercussions of his/her dog's activities, simply tying your dog up isn't going to solve your problem. bitches in heat can seek out prospective males as well, and then once again you are responsible for a possibly unwanted litter.
if this happened in the female dogs yard, like you said it did, then it is your responsiblilty, because it was your dog invading into the yard. however if the female had come into your yard, it would have been her owners responsiblility.
don't think i saw this, but might have missed it: what breeds are the two dogs?
I think you should be neighborly about it and offer to pay 1/2 of the costs. It would be a good thing to do. As far as their dog being in heat-they should have known that any dog could have visited their dog when she's in the backyard-on a chain or fenced-no difference. I think 1/2 of it is their responsibility. However, saying that a female can be impregnanted by more than one male too-maybe there's others involved also.
***Edited By: myshadow on 12/2/2004 9:14:56 AM*** Reason: Sorry-Forgot to finish typing.
Hooshie, first of all I would like to say that I admire your attitude about the situation. You did not defend what your dog did, and seem more than willing to accept responsibilty. That is not as common as you might think. I was told by a member of this forum that I am easily swayed. I do not feel that about myself. I give the best answer I can with the information that I have at the time. When more information is presented I apply that to my answer, and do not feel it is wrong to revise what I have said. In this case it has been time and my own thinking about this topic that has caused me to re-think my answer. When this dog was tied up while in heat, and no fence to keep other dogs out, the owners more or less posted a sign saying, "Welcome come on in." I like to believe that humans have a higher level of intelligence that dogs. If that is true, it certainly was not used. Your dog should not have been able to get to the female, that is true. I think you will agree with me when I say that is not his fault. Once he got loose and located the female, he only did what came naturally to him. Females can be just as assertive as males when they are in heat. I have seen that with my own eyes. The owner of the female was not acting responsibly, either. So, even though this occured on their property I think they should share the expense. I have females that are not spayed, so that is what I am looking at here. I would never compromise one of my females like that. If I were you, I would also be asking myself why they did this, and was the dog already pregnant, and did other males get to the female before or after your dog. As for an abortion my vet would not do that without spaying, and I think that is the right thing to do. Sorry this is so long. Just my thoughts on the subject.
I think I would pay the $35 needed for a DNA test to see if my dog really WAS the one that got to her. IF he was, then I agree that HALF is the most you should pay.
As I was told in court once - dogs do not know property lines - people do. You were both at fault. You for not having your dog Neutered and fenced (or on a better chain) and your neighbor for having a female in heat chained up asking for trouble. Therefore - both should pay.
If the neighbor was so concerned about his dog getting bred then he/she should have taken the dog inside or had her fenced in - ANY precautionary measure to make sure she doesn't get bred. They DID NOT do that and therefore are jsut as fault as you are.
If DNA confirms you dog is the SIRE, pay half then let your neighbor sue you. I really don't think a court will make you pay full price since the neighbor was at fault also - reglardless of who's yard it was. As I said - dogs don't know property lines. So a court will look at who was irresponsible here - in this case, both of you.
Given the upfront costs involved for him/her to take you to court and the fact that they may lose those costs - would probably be enough to deter him/her from ever taking you to court anyway.
Definitely go with DNA first though. Your dog may not be the one who actually bred her. And if he did - DON'T pay anything until you see a vet receipt. He could take your money and not have the services performed.
Cats do not 'take' on their first mating. I'm not sure about dogs but I really think the chances of another dog getting to her as good enough to require DNA proof that you must pay.
i agree i think half the price would be fair. the other owner is just as much at fault by chaining a female in heat outside. and, i would only pay once the female is verified to be pregnant. and, i would pay the fee directly to the vet. and, editorial comment, yep neuter the male. and, don't chain him outside when you are gone. he could get injured that way. better is a crate indoors.
***Edited By: pearl on 12/2/2004 11:20:21 AM*** Reason: add