I don't see why you can't. They posted all about the Adma Hernandez guy on here and I have asked about different sites. I would say go ahead. Worst they are going to do is delete it. I almost never ask for anything as far as references go except from the vet. Reason is because are you going to give a reference of someone who doesn't like you or who sold you a 'bad' puppy?? The vet can at least tell you if all the parents and pups are seen regularly.
Agreed, I don't see the value in asking for references as you stated. What do I do with the license number? I am specifically talking to an English Bulldog breeder located in Arkansas. I will not mention the name but if anyone has had trouble with someone in that location, please let me know and maybe we can speak via email to see if it is the same. Thanks everyone!
Ask if they are part of the parent clud or a working club. Ask to see the health Guarentee and what is included. I would see if they have a guest book and what the actual owners of the dogs say, usually only puppy mills will have liscene That would actually make me NOT get a dog from them. go to AKC sight http://www.akc.org/ and look up the parent club and then on that sight should be a list of reputable breeders. Import ask what kind of health testing has been done on the parents. and do they work or show there dogs? we have a few bullie people on here guys where did you get your babies from.
***Edited By: jkkseurodobermans on 12/7/2004 6:32:31 PM*** Reason: link
Just proceed with caution if you are planning on buying a dog that will be shipped to you. Someone else on this site bought a bulldog that was advertising on this site (they were in California though) and the dog was really sick and then died. And I see posts like that all the time.
Are there any breeders in your state or within driving distance that you could look into? I guess for me personally, I would be scared to buy a dog over the internet that cost as much as a bulldog. Because it's so hard to fight dog breeders in the event that something happens to your puppy. Most of the time you end up losing your money. Not that I'm saying everyone that advertises on the internet isn't reputable, but the few bad ones have really ruined it for the good.
A good test I would try, is contact the breeder that you are interested in and say that you have decided to fly out instead so you can pick up the puppy and that you would like to see the kennel or where they live (even if you don't mean it, this is just to see what they say). If they make up excuses like 'we don't let people come to the kennel for health reasons' or if they seem to try to get out of that situation, that's a red flag. Another thing you can ask is if the dogs are DNA tested and that you would like to see the papers before buying a dog. Ask about guarantees. What kind of health guarantee do the offer? A good breeder will offer a year at the least. Another good question to ask is, in the event you are not able to keep the puppy, would they like the puppy back? Most good breeders would rather take the dog back than have you sell it. Also, see how many dogs they have. Do they seem to have a lot of them? A lot of dogs, or a lot of different breeds usually indicates a back yard breeder or puppy mill. Are their puppies available year round, or only once a year? Do they have waiting lists for their puppies? Good breeders usually have their puppies placed in homes before they are even born. Just some things to look into. Good luck!
I am going to read the site further, but this statement from their FAQ page makes me leary;
Q. How did they come up with the Miniature Bulldog?
A. Longtime breeders in the 80's came up with a secret formula that worked the first time and was continued thereafter. It is kept secret to prevent breeders from harming the Miniature Bulldog.
Q. How can one become a breeder?
A. In an apprenticeship where the first stage is placing Miniature Bulldog puppies with new owners in one's own area from us with our back up, support and assurance plan. In other words, the first step is learning how to serve the Miniature client to their satisfaction. There is high satisfaction and low risk. The money earned grows with the responsibility taken and number of pups placed.
***Edited By: Ansy1 on 12/8/2004 8:08:50 AM*** Reason: xdasdas
Yes that is the place, they actually sent me an extremely comprehensive questtionaire to fill out in order to be considered for a puppy. I understand that there is not an offical "mini" bulldog but that these are just puppies that have been breed by smaller bulldogs and which may yield smaller dogs. thanks for your help!
I'm not saying they are a bad place - havent read enough yet - but the words "secret formula" don't really apply to the breeding of dogs. They seem like an organization trying to dupe people into believing that THEY are the only ones in the world that have 'these' dog.
I don't know anything about Bulldogs - so I cant help you there. I'm just looking at the organization as a whole. We had a poster here (BullyMom) who knew alot obout these dogs. Not sure if she's still here or not.
Give it a little time and someone will come along who can help you more than I can.
and also the question "do they lay down beside people and pass gas"......well any dog with a short nose like that is more farty than regular long nosed dogs. it's not from a digestion problem, it's structure of the nose. not a correct answer.
Oh DJ please be careful and research the heck out of any breeder that you cant go and visit. I attempted to purchase a Pomeranian from a breeder whom i thought was wonderful, i sent a deposit and when i asked to speak with her on the phone not the internet she suddenly told me the dog was ill and I couldnt have the puppy and also told me I harrassed her and also refused to give me back my deposit.
I had to go the the Better Business Bureau and fight for months to get this money back.
Well sure enough this breeder finally found time to call me up and bitch after i reported her.
I fought for months to get my deposit back and finally did.
So maybe check with the BBB reports and see if they have any complaints against them.
Also please be careful of one year warranties all well. So many breeders give 1 year warranties against genetic defects. Well when i finally purchased a Pomeranian from a "good breeder" or so i thought. I found out my male pup only had one testicle. Well when i contacted the breeder about that she had said that that was not an issue and that she breeds her males that only have one testicle and they produce puppies just fine.
so here is what a thought was a reputable breeder with a good warranty is deliberately breeding males with one testicle and passing it on thru generations and sees nothing wrong with it and doesnt consider it a genetic defect.
buying a dog can be such a wonderful experience but also can be heartbreaking.
the best advice i can give also is never buy "sight unseen" i will never purchase a dog with whom i have never touched or couldnt see where they are raised.
Good luck to you and keep your guard up, dont fall for pretty internet pages, anyone can make a pretty internet site........
I have a bulldog that came from Arkansas that is supposedly a "mini", although he is actually an akc registered bulldog. In case you didn't know, minis are not recognized by the akc. I was sold this puppy that was supposed to look like and be the same size as a mini. Well, as it turns out, he is already 50 pounds at 7 months of age. He's not small but he does look exactly like Little Ricky on the miniaturebulldog.com website. He's gorgeous! I had x-rays taken of him at the vet and they said his internal structure is very healthy and good. Also, he's mainly a muscle man, without all that excess fat that other bulldogs get. He's very spry and athletic which as you well know is uncharactaristic of bulldogs. Usually they have to stop and take a rest every time they take 5 steps. They already have respiratory distress and all that extra fat weighs them down making it even harder to breathe normally. If those minis are anything like my dog, they will be healthier like they claim.