from? I am thinking that the place where you got yours from may be where I am looking. I am fine with it not being "mini" i was more interested in the health and activity claims. Thanks so much! If you would rather email me please let me know!
I GOT MY DOG FROM A FRIEND OF MINE HERE IN CALIFORNIA. SHE SHIPS THEM OVER FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BREEDERS. I ACTUALLY HAVE THE NAME OF THE BREEDER ON HIS PEDIGREE. I WAS THINKING OF WRITING TO HIM TO ASK IF HE HAS PICTURES OF MY DOGS MOMMY AND DADDY. I KNOW SHE ONLY USES A COUPLE DIFFERENT BREEDERS AND I'VE BEEN GETTING MY PETS FROM HER FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS OR SO, EVERY ONE OF THEM HEALTHY. I WOULD HAVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM HER ABOUT WHERE EXACTLY HE CAME FROM.
No such thing as Mini Bulldogs. There may be breeders out there that have smaller statured bulldog's but that is the extent. Bulldogs are what they are. My bulldog is almost bigger than my friends full grown male and mine is only 9 months. He's gonna be big. He's already pushing 55+lbs and his dad was about 55-60lbs, which to be honest is starting to scare me. I don't want a monster bulldog. :)
It's all in the lines that your dog comes from, and the stature of the bloodline. About the closest to a mini bulldog would be the french. Maybe the boston. Although not a bulldog they do have that bulldog look and they have bulldog blood in thier lines.
So I am just trying to say that unless you have seen the parents, have pictures of other dogs in the lines, you won't really know how big. Unless of course like my dog, your dogs feet look like snowshoes, then you have a pretty good idea he's gonna be big. :)
there is such a thing as miniature bulldogs, just as there are miniature dobis, miniature schnauzers, etc. They are just bred down smaller bulldogs by putting small with small. They call them minis because they are supposed to be small but there is no such breed recognized by akc. A lot of people seem to be offended by the suggestion of mini bulldogs. There's nothing unusual about it, they're just smaller dogs being created for people who want smaller versions. The only thing about it that is questionable is that some claim these smaller dogs will have fewer health problems and longer lives. I don't know if that is really the case. a miniature bulldog is still just a bulldog.
Exactly as said before. No such thing as a mini-bulldog. They are just smaller in stature, due to thier line. If you can show me a Reputable breeder that has been succesfully, and intentionally breeding "smallness" into thier line then I will show you a puppy mill. Sorry. Anyone who claims they are mini's are in it for one thing. Popularity of "smaller" breeds, to make more money. that's it. Sorry if I come off rude not trying to be, I just get annoyed that E bulldogs are extremely overbred for money and the past few years with the addition of the idea of mini's will not be helping the breed at all.
I think you are misunderstanding my point on this. Why name anything Mini? Well for some breeds there is an actual standard for these, "mini's". These are the acceptable forms. Bulldogs do not have a "mini" form. They have a standard that is accepted. Period. This is along the same lines of designer breeding in my opinion. They see the Paris Hilton's of the world, They meaning puppy mill proprietors as well as irresponsible BYB's, running around with thier purse dogs and see a market for these small dogs. This in turn leads to new marketing strategies to get thier "new" breeds sold quicker, thereby creating a much higher profit. Where does the label toy anything come from? What is it's purpose other than to fill a niche for the need for the latest fad amoung the rich and famous and the want to be stylish like the rich and famous.
So where did this mini form of bulldog come from them? I have never, EVER read of anyone of reputable status doing a breed specific breedign purpose with the end goal to make a "mini" Bulldog. I have however seen NUMEROUS sites purporting to be breeders of this same line of bulldogs which are most obviously doing nothing but cashing in on a marketing scheme not even thought of by themselves. So where did this excelent breeding come from to create this miniature breed of bulldogs?
Simple. The only place it came from was the breeding of most likely less than desirable examples of bulldogs. Ie; they are very small. Bulldogs on thier own are prone to a plethera of health problems without trying to create some super race of bulldogs which are breed to fill a market. This in my opinion is only furthering an un-needed and already HUGE pet population. Not only that it is most certainly bringing many health problems into bulldogs from parents that in all likelyhood would not have been breed by any advocate of the Bulldog breed. Responsible breeders don't lable thier bulldogs as Mini. If they do...well you fill in the blank. Sorry this is my opinion. But it is also a great deal of common sense. Believe it or don't, I will still be completely unsupportive of all who think this breeding good and proper and beneficial to the breed.
**I am in no way saying there is anything wrong with ANY toy breeds, Nor in mini-anything. I am saying that furthering fads at the risk of a breed is rediculous.
While I really appreciate Ash's suggestion that my dog is of an inferior quality, I can assure you he is not. When my vet ran his xrays, he said he wished they could all be built so well. So far, he's had none of the health problems that are inherent in this breed. He didn't turn out to be little like my friend said he would. Hers however, (she already had one) is very tiny. Still, he looks exactly the same. He just weighs less. I don't consider him to be inferior at all.
All you wanted was to ask me where I got my dog and you got a lot more than you bargained for. Well, I have not spoken to my friend lately and I doubt she would want me to publish her breeder on this site.
So, do yourself a favor. Follow your own instincts and you should do fine. You might want to try locating a breeder that is close enough for you to go there and actually see the puppy before you buy it. Also, it wouldn't hurt to request taking the puppy for x-rays just to be sure it is in good health.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your new critter when you get it.
Gerty, I feel much the same way you do in regard to size. While I know that there is not a registered term for a 'mini' bulldog or a 'teacup' chihuahua, I think it is just a way to describe a dog that is smaller than the standard size. My chihuahua was only a pound and a half. At a year she literally was the size of an 8 to 10 week old chihuahua. I called her 'teacup' all the time. Not because I thought she was worth more because of her size or because I thought she was more 'rare' but because she truly was so small it was just a term I used to describe her. I think 'teacup' sounds cuter than 'runt' (which was all she was). If I were to see a mini bulldog, I wouldn't think it was another breed, I would just think, "Wow, that dog is a lot smaller than a standard bulldog". So I totally understand what you're saying. I had a lot of people get on me about calling my dog a teacup. I don't think it's bad to use terms such as 'mini' or 'teacup' or 'toy' as long as it's not a marketing technique. A way to make more money. Do you have pics of your dog? I would love to see them. :)
If it's a crime for new kinds of breeds to be created, then how did we get all the ones already in existence? They all started from somewhere didn't they?
I'd take any size as long as it looks right. You can always tell when a dog has been mixed with another breed to get a smaller dog.
If I saw Gerty's friends "mini", I would probably ask her "Is that a bulldog? He's so little". She is probably asked that all the time. What is she supposed to say?
"yes, it's just a bulldog okay, leave me alone".
Of course she says it's a mini. I know a lot of people who are buying little dogs just because they tend to be a little easier to handle. I wouldn't call them Paris Hiltons.
I went online and looked up several sites about these minis and they all pretty much said that these are just smaller versions of the same dog. Nothing more. Also, they all acknowledged that they are not recognized by registries. As far as making money off of them, none were any more expensive than standard bulldogs. When you consider that people are paying top dollar for those designer mixed breeds, what is wrong with paying the same for a purebred bully that happens to be a little smaller. In Gerty's case, hers is actually akc. Her dog just got big when it wasn't supposed to. I assume her friends is also akc. Gerty, how much does your friends dog weigh?
Also, putting two small dogs together doesn't equal genetic defects. It just means you get small offspring that can come out perfectly healthy.
Strangely I knew my point would be missed again. Alas, I think I have said my piece though. Gerty if you could refresh me on where exactly I referred to your dog as inferior I would love to see it. Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say all smaller bulldogs are inferior. I didn't even say that breeding two small bulldogs leads to inferior bulldogs. My point was simply that with a breed prone to so many problems, breeders using thier own agenda's in picking what to breed is not going to further the breed in anyway whatsoever.
And then we have the whole designer dog fight about "well where did all these breeds come from they had to start somewhere?" Well I can assure you that they didn't come from people breeding to whatever they feel should be a standard. Ie; small bulldogs, whatever breed, whatever ideals.
So I didn't say your dog is inferior. It's a bulldog, that was my point. It's not a mini bulldog, it's a bulldog. My college professor had twin's that had dwarfism, I wonder if he ever refered to them as mini-people?
Back to the orignal poster though, you have researched and you know about bulldogs, and thier potential problems. We have told you what is GREAT about them and what is not so great. If you get a bulldog that is half the size of a standard bulldog noone should look down on you for it but in all honesty this dog wouldn't fit the breed standard and you should not be paying for a normal sized bulldog. The reason you would be paying that price is once again because of the reasons I previously stated. Small or big or medium, you will love your bully no matter what.
What you should be after is a healthy bulldog, pure and simple.