after our chat that night i was wondering myself the reasoning behind why they are not good for this training. so i posted the question to my asd email list and got a pretty good explanation as to why they arent. this breed was bred for thousands of years to work totally independent of man. to make decisions on its own as to what is a threat and what isn't. and to perform their tasks with no direction from a human. living out with their flocks most times without the shpherds there they needed to make decisions on their own. so they are not often a hundred percent obedient. protecting and defending their people is not something that can be turned on and off in them. i was told that a few people have tried it with the asd and found out many reasons why they should never be used. a few reasons were one, they could not be made to attack just because the owner says to and cannot be called off for the same reason. and if the asd is made to believe the guy in the suit really is a threat the dog becomes deadly serious about finishing off the attacker. it goes for the face and throat. combine that with the independent mind of doing what it thinks it should be doing and not being able to call them off could be very deadly. protection is serious to them and not a game like most dogs view it as. it was very interesting to read what they had to say to my question.
well there. ive seen dogs that would bite the handler when a simple correction was given but as a decy i can say the head and face thing is a real problem. not having a dog "out" when told is very tolerable with the suit on but having one hang from your head while the handler tries to out them is not good.
yes i see that could be a huge problem. luckily these dogs are not just outright biters. they try every means possible to difuse a potential threat before they come right out and bite someone. so when a bite becomes necessary it is a serious situation and they treat it as such. we have no one near me that i know of that train in the k9 sports but quite a lot of schutzhund people around here.
theyre trained in a routine, take the arm always. we have dogs that are trained to hit the knee, armpit,shoulder, if they can get it or they take what they can get. one dog, rumble, is trained to hit the leg you are standing on if you move one leg to avoid the bite he changes to the leg you are on, as well as multiple scenarios, car jacking, up ladders etc. to detect who they should bite