My dog, Tsuki, is 15 months old. When I adopted her, she was around 4 months. I took her to the dog park right after she received all of her shots. She loved the other dogs and was a "pest" to older dogs, always wanting to play with them. As she's gotten older, she still loves to play (wrestle and chase) but she leaves dogs alone that don't want to play with her. My issue with her is that she can be a bit of a bully towards extremely submissive dogs and some puppies. She runs along side them and play bites at their necks. She will also run them over. She did this the other day at the park to a boxer puppy and the owner was pissed. So was I. She'll come when I call her, but stays just out of reach. It's embarrassing. She usually minds very well, and she doesn't do this all the time. It seems like she does it when she hasn't been to the park in a while, or she and I have had a "frustrating" day together. Most times she'll just find a friend to play with, or just hangs out with me, ignoring any puppies or shy dogs. There's no way to predict this behavior. She just seems to turn into a little brat at times.
I'm thinking of nixing the park for a while, and just taking more walks until she's matured. She gets to play with her doggie "cousins" so won't miss out on any dog play time. I also thought of getting a remote citronella collar since she does it when she's far away from me, but I dont' think it would help. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. BTW she is a complete mutt, but does seem to have quite a bit of pit in her. Thanks!!
i can tell you if it was my boxer there would have been trouble for you and your dog. my boxer would have torn your dog up and i am NOT promoting fighting a dog- i just know how mine are. they will not put up with a strange dog coming up to them and trying to "bite their neck". you will need to keep her close to you incase she picks the wrong dog to bite and run over. you and i would have had some serious words and i will say that i would have told you that if you can't control your dog better than that then you should not bring them to a public park. that said- that would probably be the nicest thing you would have heard. also you can get in legal trouble because of that too. i am not jumping on you just telling you how it is. off that and on to training- she need a retractable collar so that she can run and you can still pull her back if the situation arises. i would suggest getting a traing collar and using that on her leashes. it is safer than a choke chain. you can find them at a farm store, they are stronger metal than the ones i have found at PETSMART. also make sure you get the ROUNDED ends and not the sharp pointed prongs. i would also recommend obedience training. if she jumps on a dog and does hurt them then you are responsible. if she jumps on a dog and that dog in turn attacks her- you are responsible- the other dog was defending itself. if she jumps on a dog and the person who owes the dog wants to they can press charges, if she jumps on a dog and the owner feels it is a threat, they can have your dog confiscated and if they want and press hard enough they can have your dog PTS, all they have so say is she is a bully and the regulars at the park say "she did it to mine" and she is branded an aggressive dog. if she jumps on a dog and the owner is trying to break it up and gets hurt it is YOUR fault. not only is she embarrassing you she is putting you in a potentionally dangerous legal situation.
A lot of dogs just are not good for dog parks. I wouldn't take any of mine to one just because I'm scared of what someone elses dog will do. They get to play with my cousins dogs and eachother though so its no big deal.
Maybe try leaving it on the leash adn when it misbehaves correct it. It probally thinks its a game with you chasing it around.
I think you need to get your dog some training, I wouldn't take a dog anywhere and let him/her off leash unless I was positive they would stop whatever they're doing and return when called.
It's a fact that puppies will rough house, that's just what puppies do. I would say for the safety of your own dog, you should keep her on a leash in public for now.
As far as fault goes, it's not quite as black and white as the previous poster made it seem. The chances of your dog doing any real harm to a larger dog is somewhat remote, the chances of a larger dog retaliating and causing major harm to your smaller dog (even without meaning to) however, is worth being cautious about.
However, a person with a dog that would destroy another dog at a dog park because they were playing isn't exactly a prime example of of the type of dog that should be in the midst of a bunch of dogs at a park anyway.
***Edited By: TheCount on 1/14/2005 11:59:54 AM*** Reason: Format.
Some more oebdaince is a good start with her, and stopping the behaviors before tehy start. Dogs bully each other, it happens, but you do have to stopp it from escilating. If you wind up with a very sumissve dog that tolls on its back and screams, you might wind up with a very nasty dog fight as someones preydrive kicks in.
Keep her on lead. Please don't use a flexi unless you understand how to keep control of your dog. You can unintentionaly hurt another dog with them.
A dog who would "tear up" another for normal doggie social interaction definitely doesn't belong at a park! That's the invitation for a lawsuit.
That said- PUPPIES don't belong at dog parks. Dog parks are for further socializing dogs who already HAVE social skills- something puppies need to learn through safer one on one interactions. Even the sweetest dogs can be confused by a puppy's antics- so they should never be put into a situation with so many other strange dogs.
And yes- until your dog has a very reliable "come" down, no doggie parks for them! Work on that in a distraction class.
One awful piece of advice that seems to be implied by several posters here, however- is to leash your dog in a dogpark. NEVER bring a leashed dog into a dog park. A dog on a leash is much more defensive than the free roaming dogs around it, inviting aggressive behavior. Leash-free parks are leash-free for a reason! Until your dog will perform "come" perfectly, NO dog parks for them. Socialize in areas where all dogs are leashed instead- but do so very cautiously- or during one on one meetings with trusted animals.
You should also only use a training/prong collar for training sessions in which no other dogs are present or dogs are around but leashed and working/playing with their owners (like in a class). You should never let your dog play with other dogs when your dog is wearing a prong collar.
i do not take my dog to a park, because i have enought land for them to run and and enought sense to know that mine do not like strange dogs "coming up to them and biting their neck." and at 15 months old a dog is not quite a puppy. i am sure that the person wants to keep their dog safe and yes it is black and white about laws with dogs. your dog your respos. puppy interaction is not IMO what she is talking about. this is an aggessive dog that is getting a little brave and will pick the wrong dog and then there will be a fight. i do not believe in taking my dog anywhere public without a leash, thankfully i live in the country, but i would not take them leashless to a park if i lived in the city. i will say that the poster need traing for her dog before the dog get her/him in legal trouble.
Aggressive dog? It sounds like rough housing to me, but maybe I'm wrong.
Your dogs, on the other hand, certainly sound like the kind of dogs I wouldn't bring around children and/or leave unwatched. I certainly would not allow my dogs to play with them in near any setting.
At one year old, a dog is roughly equal to 15 or so human years. Still young by the standards of most and still finding his/her place.
Thus far, everyone has provided constructive help. You're the only one that seemed to go out of their way to make a casual posters concern seem like ignorance and negligence.
Attacking a person that was smart enough to come here for help does no good, because I can promise you that for every one that comes here there are 10 that see the same behavior in their dog and think nothing of it only to have more serious problems later.
i keep a very close watch on my dogs. they are well behaved and LOVE children. they have ALL had obedience traing. They are wonderful with kids, even kids who rufhouse with them- they know the difference. they also are very protective of children. it is nothing for thenm to curl up beside my 6 month old cousin and go to sleep. we do not allow them to be alone with him but they love to let him watch them. they also are very gentle aound a disabled cousin of mine- they are loving and gentle. they just do not like strange dogs. People are like that too. I have 1 male that will get along with any female and a female that will get along with males. BOXERS are a same sex aggresive dog- not all but it is a documented fact. mine just happen to not like the opposite sex. As far as making the OP sound ignorant- that was not my intention at all, but i know the laws regaurading dogs and she IS liable for the actions of her dogs. the op states "My issue with her is that she can be a bit of a bully towards extremely submissive dogs and some puppies. She runs along side them and play bites at their necks. She will also run them over." if the OP dog comes up to another dog at the park and does the neck bit thing- and the other dog "feels threatened" and turns on her dog she is the one responsible-- and that is a fact she should know. Her dog-- her responsiblity. what if a child & his dog are playing and her dog runs at them- the child's dog could think that his "child" was in danger and take action.
i would not allow my dogs to run free in a park with other dogs, just because i do not know the other dogs and their owners. I am lucky enough that i have the room to let mine roam at home and they get enteraction with a select few dogs. Dog & owners i know that i know mine will not be feel threatend. Yes mine rough house but not until they have sniffed and gotten aquianted.
if i am somewhere with my dogs and someone's dog runs up and "bites their neck and tries to run over them" and the owner does nothing yes i would have problems with her--- any one would.
When you talk about a dog park are you saying it is a big place where dogs can run around off leash? I have never heard of such a place until mentioned on TP. I know where I live you cant' take dogs anywhere unless they are on leash. I use to be able to take my maltese to my son's soccer games on leash but now they don't allow dogs of any kind there.
Thanks to The Count, IcyHound, LongDogs, and Protodog for your advice. Obviously Tsuki needs to learn a 100% reliable "come" before we can venture back to the dog park.
I don't believe she is an aggressive dog, just loves to rough house. If she does approach a dog (large or small) and that dog tells her in no uncertain terms that they don't want to play, or they ignore her, she will back off. Or if they want to play another way, she's happy to do that. She'll always find at least one "friend" to rough house with. It's just these random incidents that mar her personaility. She doesn't dominate, she will actually roll on to her back in order to get another dog to wrestle with her.
Puppies in the dog park are a problem. The age minimum is supposed to be 4 months, but some dogs are still too little to be in there at 7 months. It can be a chaotic place with huge dogs romping everywhere. Tsuki got trampled and bullied her first time there too. The dog park board is supposed to fence off a section for puppies and small dogs.....hopefully they will do that soon.
Thank you again to all that gave constructive advice.
Actually, your dog sounds like a great dog park dog, except for the part about not coming on command. Once you get the "come" down, you should be able to take her back to the park because when she starts to get too enthusiastic with the little ones, you'll be able to call her back to you so that nobody gets trampled.
The basic obedience class my dogs attended included social skills and distraction training. The dogs had "recess" at the end of every class to practice dog park situations. And once they had a solid "come" from a stay, we practiced "come" during the recess portion of the class. One trick that worked really well was when the dog came on command, the reward for coming wasn't a treat or praise, it was "go play." So, the dog got what she really wanted at that moment--more playing. And if the dog didn't come on command, the owner went and got the dog and gave her a correction.
My dogs are great about coming when called when we're at the dog park. You may want to look for a class that has dog park practice included or try the same activity when your dog plays with the doggie cousins.