I've read different things about puppies traveling by cargo. Some websites say not below 35 degrees, but others say thet's only if the puppy is going to be outside on the tarmac. Some airlines say they have a temp controled cart that they use to transport from the plane to the tarmac. Any experience from shippers? Are there a lot of rules you have to follow? I'm expecting a puppy at the end of this week, but it's 10 degrees in new york. He's coming by Continental.
This info is going to vary depending on the breed and the size of the dog. Your best bet is to call Continental at 800-575-3335 for more details. But basically, the pup is going to need a health certificate from the vet, which will also have temperature acclimation documented; ie, what is the lowest temperature the pup can tolerate. You can also email Continental at: email@example.com
Take into account what kind of puppy your shipping and where it's going. A husky pup will travel in colder temps than a yorkie. From Miami to Phoenix..no problem. But to colder climes beware. Never ship in hot weather. I breed Coton de Tulear and do not ever allow my dogs or pups in cargo. Airlines are not required to keep or disclose records on pets shipped in cargo. Alot goes on the public is not aware of. I know alot of people do it with no problems but I will not.
Continental is the only airline with climate control. Go to their website and click on Petsafe or QuickPak. They are very attentive to pets in my opinion. You can also ship in very hot weather, when other airlines won't.
I will restate my position on NEVER shipping in hot weather. Even Continental cannot control temps on the tarmac or other receiving areas they may keep a dog kennel. Call them and ask them how many pets they lose in a year. No, that's right they will not tell you. You're taking a risk with a living and breathing animal. I'm a former airline employee and travel agent. I know of at least 3 dogs that perished in cargo. Think of all the ones i'm not aware of.
Cochon, I think you're getting a liitle worked up about the hot westher thing. It's January. I was just asking about the rules so I could make sure I avoided the puppy being exposed to extreme weather. I think the idea of never flying dogs is unreasonable. Lots of people fly dogs and cats all over the place. I think we'd know if there was an epidemic of dogs freezing or frying to death.
I personally think Continental takes great care in shipping puppies, just from reading their website and from receiving my puppies last week, which were flown to me on Continental.
My puppies left Mississippi in 30 - 40 degree temperature to arrive in Los Angeles where is was 70 - 80. My pups were fine, they were not overheated from heat or shivering from cold. Continental took great care with my puppies.
Let me just say in Cochon's defense that it is ALWAYS a risk to ship an animal. Although it is true that thousands of animals are shipped every day with no problems, it is also true that you rarely hear about the ones that DO have problems. (This is obviously something that the airlines are not exactly going to brag about.) You have to do your research and be aware of the risks.
You know cochron you say you need to warn people of harm going to dogs as a dog breeder yourself. Well let me warn you of something, my grandma owns an animals shelter with over 175 dogs that NEED a home. So as you continue b*tching about flying a dog which will be fine look at how many people its helped think about all the dogs dieing or not having a home as your dog gives birth to 6 more puppies soon to be dogs. And also think about all the dogs going to animal shelters because your bringing in a puppy or a new breed or some s*it like that. What you need to do as a kind breeder is something for ALL breeds and stop breeding so other dogs can have a nice home like your future puppies.
SO LISTEN TO ME! SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR PET IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! ITS MUCH HEALTHIER FOR THE PET TOO! AND IT MAKES IT HAPPIER.
Also let me tell you Do you know that almost every dog hit by a car is not neutered. Its a male running around lookin for a female because she is in heat. So thats another reason wy you should spay or neuter because next time it could be you male or female.
I am not going to not breed afghan hounds. If people who admire, love, and worship this breed do not breed them, we wont have them.
People who come to us to buy afghan hounds want afghan hounds. This is true in many breeds. Period and end of point. They don't go "you are charging how much?!" they dont go "I have to spay it?" they don't go "I am going to make my money back breeding"
Instead they say "thank you for caring for and preserving thsi breed that I love so much"
While people need to take responsibility for their dogs, not breeding at all is not the answer. Not everyone wants mutts and many of them would not have a dog before they just had any dog.
all airline have to follow the guidelines set by USDA. that states no animals will be shipped in weather above 85F, with the exception of SNUB nose pets and that is nothing above 75F. any animal shipped in weather BELOW 50F has to have a VET accalimation slip and no animal will be shipped in temps below 10F" no if you are flying and your pet will be in your lap- then the regs are different. Any time you consider shipping an animal go to the USDA website and get their regs and compare them to the airlines
I always find it very humorous to see how a simple question goes from just that, a simple question, to ugly banter. It's amazing to me that there are some on here that will always find a way to argue when it is not necessary. And this is JMHO.
My breeder put a 4-5 wk old pup in the crate and never filled out the ...
"fed at such and such time" sticker.....all that was on there was HIS address and phone number.
Nor did Continental fill out that THEY fed the poor thing. One would think common sense would say, HEY, this little guy hasnt had anything to eat or drink, OR I would assume so, since its not filled out....I will give him something and document it....
But, they did not.
And I ended up with a VERY sick pup and a 500 overniter in intestive care to prove it!!!
Continental DID Not check the vet cert, or they would have seen that there was NOT a date it was checked. Furthermore, Continental said they do not transport pups 12 wks or younger.
Apparently, the employees there cannot do simple math.
DOB 12-10-04 means that on 2-14-05 she was around 9 wks.
To add insult to injury, all her other papers say she was born ON 12-20-04 (ckc registration) so, to be honest, I have NO idea how old she is...
I say to you all, if you can get away with NOT shipping, dont do it.
Or at least do it with a breeder, such as I read here, who arent afraid to POST here, that they truly care about their puppies and have their best interests at heart.
Cause mine didnt.
***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 2/18/2005 6:44:09 PM*** Reason: forgot info
ok having recently checked into the airlines I would have to say that Delta is the one I would go with. That being said I wanted to adress "cochon." Not to be rude but you are being rediculous. first of all there are no airlines now that will ship a dog in cargo unless all the requirments are met. They will not ship in weather over 76 degrees and will not ship under 20 degrees. their main policy is like 45 degrees but if a vet says that the dog is safe to travel at lower temps they will go as low as 20 degrees. They do not want the dogs sedated because flying is a natural sedative to most dogs.
I have worked with raised borded and trained dogs for years. I even used to be a reputable breeder particularly of the Doberman. It is perfectly safe to ship a pet as long as both you follow their instructions. Plus the other member is right. There are thousands of homeless dogs. some are only saved because they were shipped somewhere else. If that is what it takes to save the dog I will gladly take that risk. You don't need to be breeding anyway. I don't want to hear about continuing the breed and bettering the breed. There are too many homeless animals now! Many of the animals in the shelters are pure bred dogs. Maltise, dobes, rots, yorkies and I could go on. If the breeed were close to becoming extinct I could see but you are taking up homes that could be available for the ones already here. Yes I used to breed but I know better now. I got smart. I got educated on what is going on. Plus if your a responsable breeder it cost money to breed dogs. All that money spent could be put to better use helping those who are already here.