Hi Im the proud owner of a new puppy. He's an eight week old Yorkie. I've had him since last monday night and I just wanted to check with some of you more experienced dog owners that Im doing the right thing. I live in a flat and make him sleep in the kitchen on his own with the door shut. (In the day he comes to work with me, or if Im at home in the day, he can wander between the lounge and the kitchen.) In the kitchen at night I have his crate/carrier with the door open and his blanket inside (with a couple of his cuddly toys), theres fresh water and food for him, in addition to a "pee pad" on the floor. I even leave the radio on and a lamp on for him. (I dont want him sleeping in my bedroom or on my bed. The first couple of nights, he cried but I stopped myself from going in so that he would get used to being on his own. Since then I have worn ear plugs in bed in case I hear him cry as this means that I sit up all night in the next room worrying about him! I try to leave him for about seven hours at night on his own and he seems to have settled down no (well, i haven't heard him - I can hear some noise through the super-strength ear plugs!!) Am I doing the right thing? Any advice would be gratefully received!
***Edited By: mekado on 1/30/2005 5:48:36 PM*** Reason: spelling errors
at weeks old he is probably to young to hold it all nite. that is why he cries. personally id rather get up at night for a while adn take him out than have to re-train him off paper in a few months. also if you take away his water a few hours before bed so he can get it all out of his system he will make it longer.
I agree with Eskiegirl. I don't think that puppy is not old enough nor big enough to hold it for 7 hours. I also agree that you should not leave food and water out for him to get into in the night. Their bladders are just too small at this point. He should get used to eating at set times through the day.
The peeing in the night isn't a problem as I cant take him out yet as he isn't having his first vaccination until Thursday - the Vet has told me not to let him walk in the streets until he has had his second of the two - in about four weeks. I'll take the food away at night - I thought it was a mistake to leave it out. I should still leave him water though shouldn't I? All the many books I've read say to ensure that there is always a supply of fresh water for him?
The book is right. A Yorkie that young should always have access to food and water. Yorkies are very prone to be hypoglycemic. Since you have had the puppy a week almost that means you brought him home at 7 weeks. No Yorkie breeder in their right mind, or cared about the puppies would ever separate a puppy from it's mother at that age. Most are still nursing at that age. 12 weeks is usually when they are ready to leave. Have you called the breeder to ask why the puppy is still crying after being with you a week? Why don't you want the puppy in your room? What if it has a seizure while you have ear plugs in your ears at night, or runs into some other kind of trouble. I brought Cricket home at 12 weeks, she cried one night, and not even a whole night. I did not let her out of my sight, or with someone I trusted until she was 3 months old. Did you not research Yorkies at all before you bought this puppy? I could go on and on about this, but I am going to stop here. The only conclusion I can come to on this, that makes any sense to me is that you are being less than honest.
Hi thanks for the advice everyone, I really am grateful.
I tried the baby gate but hes so tiny that he just walked through it!!!!!!! To be honest, I think I am probably worrying a little too much. I pop out the ear plugs when I wake up and he hasnt been crying for the last few nights. I think he may have been upset the first few days seen as he'd just left his Mummy & Daddy. Hopefully, things are going the right way now - thanks for the advice on the food issue - I've pretty much had food out for him all the time so I need to nip that in the bud now to get him into a routine.
Thanks for your advice "cricketmom" however, I did bring him home on Monday - yes, 7 weeks old - I've had him at the vets since and they also told me that the breeder shouldn't have let him home that early. Whats done is done - I have however contacted the appropriate body over here about the breeder. (I was led to believe that one of the rules of this forum was to treat others with respect - by calling me "less honest" you are actually calling me a "liar" in nice terms - I came here for some advice and a little reassurance, not insults - if I want insulting, I'll call my Mother.)
Mekado, when the vet told you the puppy was too young to be taken from his mother, why didn't you take him back?
You are correct about the rules. You happen to touch on something that is very dear to me, and when you write that you put ear plugs in your ears to keep from hearing that baby all alone crying for his mother, what I said is the most respectful I can be. Sorry, if that is not good enough.
Something else you might want to try is maybe have a toy or blanket with the mother's scent on it. I brought home all my puppies at around 8 weeks. I wasn't aware at the time that that was too early. I will be more careful. But when I did get them they each came home with something that had the mother's scent on them and I put it in the crate with them. I believed that helped. I also realize that you may not be able to do this now but I didn't think it would hurt to mention it. http://www.dogster.com/?81542http://www.dogster.com/?81540http://www.dogster.com/?81537
The owner had already let his two brothers go earlier (yes, I know that she has let them go too early) She called me to tell me that his Mother had rejected him and that I should come and get him now. After taking him to the Vets, the Vet said that taking him back was not an option as it would make taking him away agin too distressful for him. I'm not totally happy with the breeder but I am sorting that out. I have only used the ear plugs as the reason I did not want to hear him cry is because it upset me too much. Everyone (including the Vets) has told me that he should get used to sleeping on his own at night and that I should not go in if he cries. The Vet said that going in will mean that the puppy uses cries to his advantage and not because he is distressed. I have a baby tv monitor that I bought at our local Woolworths for £39.99 and watch him on that. For the last couple of nights, when he isnt sleeping, he plays with his raggy doll and puppy and pulls his toys around the kitchen floor. He even has started to pee on his pee-pads for peeing and gets it right almost 90% of the time - Im sure this might be conincidence for now but it seems good going. Im sure Im not the only pet owner in the world that doesn't want their pets in their bedroom? I had three dogs when I was a kid and they never went into the bedrooms. No matter what first impression you have of me, I'll state again that my reason for coming on here was for advice. Thanks to some of you for your constructive comments and help.
Mekado, I am the new mommy of TWO yorkies, a male and female, they are 9 weeks old, I've had them one week, though when they were shipped to me I was under the impression that they were 12 and 15 weeks old (but that's a long story).
I would like to say that my yorkies have food and water available to them at all times, day or night. Right now I'm more concerned with their nutrition than them being able to "hold it" all night long. My yorkies weigh less than a lb and until they are a 3 lbs or more, I will keep food/water available to them. And probably even after that.
I have a large kennel, inside this kennel is their warm fuzzy blanket on one end (the end where the door is, on the side of the kennel I have their food and water, and at the back end furthest from their bed is newspaper for them to go potty. They have each other for company but since I've got them, I leave my bedroom door open so I can hear anything that doesn't sound like normal whining to get out. I'm a light sleeper so I'm sure I don't miss anything.
My vet also told me not to take my babies outside until they've had all their shots, there is so much they can catch, not to mention the dangers for something that small.
When my pups get a little older, I will concern myself more with their potty training, right now, I just want them to grow and not be hungry or thirsty. All their body parts will grow and they will be able to hold it longer as they get older, if I was to let them out of their kennel everytime they had to go potty, I'd be letting them out every 15 minutes.
My only suggestion would be is to move the puppies contained area to your bedroom so that you can hear them easier and can console with your voice if he/she cries. And please don't take up the food and water at night.
My baby only weighs 1lb at the moment, which I am told is a little under weight for 8 weeks. He has put on weight since I brought him home though and visibly seems to be thriving.
The first Vets visit was two days after I got him and we've had to treat him for worms and ear mites too.
I'm very concerned with the whole issue surrounding his breeder as the Vet wasn't convinced he is as old as we have been told. He delayed his first injection until this Thursday seen as he has had the ear drops and worming paste to contend with this week. He's been a really good boy having his ear drops - the vet said that it looked like a disco in his ears, the poor baby.
Sounds like your little one got off to a bad start, I'm sorry to hear that.
Just take care of him medically, food and water at all times, a place for him to go potty, toys LOTS of love from you and praise for the good things he does. And read read read everything you can about yorkies.
Mekado, first of all - congrats. on your new puppy!
I think pretty much, all puppies will cry for long periods of time when they are not used to being separated from the litter. And your pup is a little young, but there is nothing physically wrong with it that you know of, right. Being rejected by its mother is something you could not help, so don't worry about that.
Have you tried a ticking clock and a heating pad, or hot water bottle?
I have had a puppy that was younger than yours, 4 weeks (it was severely neglected and I rescued it) I think it's a little tramatized that it's suddenly "all alone". Unfortunantely you have to do what's best for all involved. If you let it sleep with you, it might start playing in the middle of the night, keeping you up - so that's no good.
While I am no "dog trainer" you asked for advice so here's mine: Since the pup is crying in the kit. I'd let it have freedom to roam out of the cage to poop when it needed to go (just for a few days, until it gets used to being alone at night.) I would confine it to a small area though. If you take it out every couple of hours to eliminate, in its mind, he/she is going to be reinforced by your showing up and the crying could be prolonged or get worse. But I would still check up on it from time to time to make sure it's ok - puppies can get into trouble easily. The other posters are right about convulsing and vomiting, etc. you don't want that to happen without your knowledge so you can help him/her.
When the pup is at the point that it is good for you at night, then you can house train it by taking it out at night and crate training - its so young now, I dont think you're going to mess anything up by letting it poop on newspaper until it calms down at night. Just make sure you clean up the area really good so there is no evidence of poop or pee so it wont continuie to go there when you try to house break it in the future.
Finally, just about all young puppy owners are going to loose sleep for the first few weeks until the pup gets adjusted - he's a baby just like a human and needs attention.
***Edited By: shelly71172 on 1/30/2005 8:15:23 PM*** Reason: e
Mekado, certainly asking for advice is the right thing to do. But the advice needs to come from people that know about small breeds, especially Yorkies. It would probably be a good idea to visit an additional forum just about Yorkies.
You have added bits and pieces here in each post that had I known upfront I would not have said that you were being less than honest. So, I apologize for that.
The breeder should have known that even if the mother rejected the puppies, there are reason that the littermates should be kept together. She should still have kept them together for a few weeks. It does not look like she is, or will be much help.
Cricket did not weigh as much as your puppy at 12 weeks, so you can't decide the age on the weight factor alone.
Please do as Yorkielover suggested and do not take the food and water from the puppy. The most important thing at this point is that the puppy eats. Do you have Nutrical?
I am sorry but I still do not agree with the ear plugs, and the puppy being alone at this age. Good luck.
* A trick that I learned, but failed to mention is putting the puppy in a small carrier at night, with a light blanket over the front. If he cries, tap firmly on the top a few times and say, "No, No." That has never taken more than three nights with any of my puppies.*
***Edited By: cricketmom on 1/30/2005 8:35:39 PM*** Reason: cause
Mekado, I wanted to add something else, I was thinking about you while I was holding my little ones while they slept (I love that feeling).
Anyway, just remember, puppies are like babies and with a baby, you follow the advice of a doctor (in this case your vet), the advice of your family and friends, from what you read, but most importantly, take all that information, some will apply to your situation and some won't, just follow your gut. Do what you feel is right as a caring human being. No one ever fails that way.
Congrats on your new yorkie! It is a MUST that you leave food and water with your pup at all times!!!!!! and make sure they are eating all day. Low blood sugar in pups of that size can be a BIG problem if they do not eat. It can come on fast under stress or playing to hard or forgetting to eat. I am a breeder and am very careful with my pups but it just happened to me as I started weaning at 7 1/2 weeks. I have a 1 lb female pup that I almost lost due to low blood sugar and I won't go into the horrible details but she almost died and I watch them 24/7. Fine one minute and down the next. Even if the mom rejected the pup and started weaning the pup should have been left with the siblings. It's just plain wrong to send a 1 lb pup home with someone even if they are 12 weeks. Thats to small in my opinion but you know that now I'm sure. If you can make a spot in your bedroom at night ( with a pee pad) then the pup can at least see you and know it's not alone. I'm sure the pups is crying more due to the fact that it was sold to soon and is not feeling secure. It's kind of a catch 22 with holding a pup when it cries because it does teach them to cry if they want to be held but with the age of your pup and the background of taking it away to soon you might want to hold it during the night for a bit and then put it back in it's area and if it still cries then say no. you just don't want ot wake up in the morning to find that the pup got to stressed from being alone and it's now in a full blown hypoglycemia attack. When I give my pups their shots I give them 1/2 dose because they are so small. You might want to ask your vet about doing that. Myself and Breeders I know do that and our vets say it's ok. Just a thought. I would love to see pictures of your little baby.Welcome to TP
***Edited By: jeanief on 1/31/2005 1:48:05 PM*** Reason: added