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Posted: 10:46:14 PM 1/21/2006
I am not a purebred snob. What I am is someone who is sick of watching the latest dog fad come along and all the greedy pigs who jump on the "lets breed the latest Mutt" bandwagon. Where do you think the majority of these mixed dogs will end up? Not your couch. I'll bet you won't be at the local shelter trying to re-home the messes this creates or inserting the needle that kills them either. There is NO good reason to mix these 2 breeds. there are plenty of other breeds available without making Poo-mixed,uggles, or any other x-breed. There is one reason its done and that is greed and by buying them you are supporting this. In a year or so, the fad will die out like they always do and what will be left will be a bunch of pug dogs and Beagle bitches dumped because they are no longer useful. Already the price of these mutt dogs have dropped. Pretty soon the greedy puppy producers won't have a market and they'll think up some other designer mutt to sell the gullible people who do NOT one ounce of research before they rush out to buy it. Mark my words. just keep watching and see what happens. I've been watching this kind of crap for 25 years.

Posted: 10:49:01 PM 1/21/2006
*clears throat* I jut love the people who tag people as "purebred snobs" just because we believe in keeping the qualities and integrity of a breed alive, again, again, again, all of us have said at least a thousand times,(consider this 1,001) we have no problem with mixes, most of us own or have owned them. Our issues are with the intentional breeding of them by the people doing it line their wallets.

There is no real benefit health wise to intentional mixing, it does not make a healthier dog, but if that is what you like, go for it, I have some mixed breed rescues myself.
Posted: 3:36:12 AM 1/22/2006
I guess that makes two of us that are wrong then. You may not be a purebred snob, but I didnt get my dog because of a fad! I went to see the dogs at the pet store (yes, oh my gosh, pet store!) everyday. When I saw saydie I fell in love with her, so I got her, not to follow the so called "puggle fad" that just started and I got my dog, um, over a year ago thank you. This whole "oh people who get dogs at a pet store are bad" or "people shouldn't mix dogs" thing is so STUPID. You are supposed to get a dog because you love it, and its your "best friend" not because of what it is or where it came from. God people, get over it!
Posted: 3:54:01 AM 1/22/2006
Ummm, no....I will 'get over it' when the puppy millers are shut down that breed the crap out of these dogs, keep them in filthy tiny cages their whole lives until they cant produce that millionth litter anymore, then discard them like trash. And I'll 'get over' it when people wake up and stop supporting this treatment of dogs.

This goes for puppy millers of both purebreds and mixes.
Posted: 7:39:04 AM 1/22/2006
We got our Rebel before the fad also we had never heard of a Puggle he was so cute and we couldn't leave without him. To tell you the truth after purchasing a mix breed I don't think I would ever buy a purebreed again.
Posted: 8:33:39 AM 1/22/2006
This should sum it all up in a nut shell......Sorry but I am also sick of the farce about "designer" breeds......

"The Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act provides that a person or business has engaged in an illegal deceptive trade practice when the business or person does any of the following things: Passes off goods or services as those of another.

Causes likelihood of confusion or misunderstanding as to the source or approval of goods or services; or an affiliation with or certification by someone else.

Uses deceptive representations or designations of the geographic source of the goods or service.

Represents that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, characteristics, ingredients, uses or benefits that they don't have, or that a person has some sponsorship, approval or connections that he or she does not.

Represents that the goods are original or new when they are not.

Represents that goods or services are of a particular standard, quality or grade, or of a particular style or model, when they are not.

Disparages the goods, services or business of someone else by false or misleading representations.

Advertises goods or services with no intent to sell them as advertised or that supplies needed to meet reasonable demand (unless the advertisement discloses a supply limitation).

Makes false or misleading statements of fact concerning the reasons for or the existence of price reduction.

Engages in any other conduct which similarly creates a likelihood of confusion or of misunderstanding.

While the laws vary somewhat in those states that have not adopted the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act, the foregoing items represent the kind of items that are illegal in nearly every state.

Both the federal and state laws provide that not only may the government sue a business or person that has engaged in a deceptive trade practice, but usually competitors and consumers also have a right to sue. Many of these laws provide for payment of fines and penalties, as well as the right to collect attorneys fees by an aggrieved party.

Also remember that in addition to these laws, common law concepts, such as the tort of fraud, often still apply. Businesses are cautioned to used care in preparing advertising and promotional materials as many states vigorously enforce these laws to protect their consumers."

Posted: 9:24:10 AM 1/22/2006
Before we bought our Puggles Buddy and Baby we had 4 mutts and loved them all dearly. My wife and I always said that we would not pay more than a minimum cost for a puppy and with our recently decease dog Max up in age we would most likey not get another dog. I did not want to go through the process of raising another puppy. That was until my wife came home from our local pet store and told me about the puppy she fell in love with. That was Buddy who is now 1 1/2 old. After Max died, I knew that another puppy was not far behind, that is when we got Baby who just turned 6 months. You no what, I don't care what they cost us, if we could not afford it we won't have them, I don't care what people think of them. Different strokes for different folks. All I know they bring much joy and happiness to our family and compared to our other dogs they were easier to house break they our dogs in the past. We are able to leave both out all day when no one is home, and they use the doggie door and go outside when they want and do no damage to the inside the house.

So if you don't like Puggles, go to another discussion forum.
Mike

p.s.
My business has a can at the register collectiing funds for the local animal shelter and they tell me that it is there highest collection site.

http://www.trentonroadtakeout.com/Buddy%20the%20Bug.htm
Posted: 9:26:23 AM 1/22/2006
To tell you the truth after purchasing a mix breed I don't think I would ever buy a purebreed again.

For me, therein lies the problem. Not directed at the poster, but at the thought, shared by so many.

I love dogs. Pedigree doesn't matter to me as far as pets go. It's the thought of BUYING, actually paying over-inflated fees to have a pet that would in bygone days be considered an "oops"! ie.. Neighbor's dog got my dog, anyone want a puppy?

Instead you are paying top dollar for a pup that may or may NOT turn out well, may or may NOT have the traits of one breed over the other, may or may NOT have all the health issues of one or both breeds. Some of the most wonderful dogs I have had in my life were mixed breeds. You have a wide and varied gene pool that may be wonderful or may end up disastrously.

Love your pet, by ALL means, but be realistic when you consider that you're paying for a Lexus and getting a hybred VW with a Hugo engine.

It's not the PET that is a problem, it is the fact that "fads" have created a demand for the mixed breeds and there are more people out there than you can count who have jumped on the bandwagon to create a "new" designer breed every day and charge astronomical prices for a pup they can not possibly know the eventual outcome of. Not even pup to pup in the same litter can be assured of being genetically the same. One may show the traits of this parent over the other or some recessive gene from yet a different breed further back.

The loving "mutts" that have enriched my life were not bred on purpose, but were still wonderful dogs. We paid no more than a shelter adoption fee. We did NOT pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for these pets.

Sorry, but I just can't understand how someone can be led by trends and fads, especially when it comes to living creatures.

***Edited By: pyrmom on 1/23/2006 10:52:16 AM***
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Posted: 9:40:46 AM 1/22/2006
My concern is still: for every "Perfect" little puggle that makes it to the pet store or is sold by a "breeder"....HOW many not so perfect ones have been discarded? The ones that don't have the desired looks etc.
Posted: 9:51:05 AM 1/22/2006
Can't that be said about any dog or pet. I see in the local paper purebreds and mutts up for adoption by the local shelter. The problem is not just with designer breeds but with the people that buy any pet and do not give a lifetime commitment to them. The people that buy there kids rabbits or fish or hamster, etc and then get tired of them in a short time. There are alot of purebred pit bulls at the locals. The problem lies with the people not the animal.

Mike

Posted: 10:24:43 AM 1/22/2006
Yes, it can happen in any breed (I live for the day that there aren't anymore dobermans that need to be rescued)..that's the point...with so many other dogs out there...why create a new "breed". Many people out there are shelling out a thousand dollars for a dog that they think is an actual breed when it's not. I think most of the people who post here understand that they have purchased a mixed breed, but there are many that have been scammed. My hairdresser is one of them...she says she has "papers" and everything.
Breed a puggle to a puggle and you don't get a puggle. The same goes for doodles and all the other designer breeds out there.

Posted: 10:42:32 AM 1/22/2006
we all have opinions about wheather or not to breed two sertion dogs together to me i just buy a dog for the dog i dont breed never wanted to breed dogs after seeing how my sister in law breeds yorkies she had priced 900.00 and i thought that was to high she has had to lower prices and stil cant get rid of them but still is going to breed again thats dumb as for puggles i own one she is sweet loving not yappy at 4 months is spoiled we got her from a farmer who had unwanted puppies we checked in to puggle rescue it was going to cost us more to adopt a puggle we looked in to the shelters not one found on in the paper went looked at them after seeing how she lived i was glad i went to look she lived outside in a cage small delapidated barn to sleep in she was fed adult dog food from a local feed and seed and what else they could find to eat she was melnurished in my opionon i think i saved her life he talked about about having to do away with here if she didint find a home. can we just get off the topic of pure bred snob and mixed hybrid dogs if people want to spend thousdands of dollars on any type of dog and then put it in a pound is there money that they have lost i dont care if any of my dogs have health issues it dosent change the way i feela bout them i love dogs no matter what if any dog that i was wanting to get rid of it would have been my min pin when we first got her she was so hyper bouncing off one thing to another but we gave her a chance and now we shes a couch lover so cab we just stpo the topic of bashing all types of dogs
Posted: 11:21:07 AM 1/22/2006
Wow you people still dont understand that some of us puggle owners arent following a fad. I got my dog way before then. Oh, and by the way, she came from a farm cause the pet store releases that information so you know the pups are not coming from harmful places. I dont care how much I payed for my dog because when I saw that face I knew she was mine. I love her more than anything. Just because I payed alot for her DOES NOT MEAN I SUPPORT PUPPY MILLS. GOD What kind of person do you think I am. I think its horrible. In fact, my last year of college I did a paper an research on it. So why dont all of you that are making this a big deal just leave this part of the forum. Its so us puggle owners can talk about our dogs, and how much we love them, and what works for us training wise and just to have a "nice" conversation about our dogs. Its a dog, and its our choice to have them or any other dog we want, so just worry about yourself and dont be so quick to judge people's morals by thier dog.

***Edited By: Bubbles1205 on 1/22/2006 11:24:29 AM***
Reason: add about where she came from
Posted: 12:24:53 PM 1/22/2006
why does it matter what type of dogs people get we just come on here for advise read about other dogs and to see pictures i like all type of dogs. its just happaens that i fel in love with a puggle i not in to the fad thing i have never been and never will be i got my puggle Noel be fore the fad happened why it is that when somone comes on here for questions and it happens to be about a puggles that it ends up being a heated topic about why it s bad to breed these types of dogs all we ask if you have any information about the question reply if not dont cause all it does is get people mad and and things are said that should not be just be happy that there poeple out there that is willing to buy adopt or what ever the case is. i know that there will probably be a few out there that end up in a shelter but that goes for most dogs no matter if mixed pure breds or what i know one thing my dogs will not
Posted: 7:40:18 PM 1/22/2006
"Sorry, but I just can't understand how someoen can be led by trends and fads, especially when it comes to living creatures."

I'm getting really irritated that people keep saying us puggle owners are following the fad because maybe thats not why some of us got out dogs!!! My dog was 450 dollars and I DONT CARE because I was just lucky to have her and I think I SAVED her from having to stay there. I got her because I have a black puggle and she reminds me of my old lab dog Terra. They have the same personalities and everyone that sees saydie always thinks she is part lab. So dont put words into peoples mouths....

By they way all you puggle owners out there, I am having some trouble getting Saydie to go to the bathroom without it taking like 30 mins haha because of her heightened sense of smell. Any suggestions on how to get her to go a little faster. Ive tried laying her food out, using a word, Im stuck! lol
Posted: 8:23:31 PM 1/22/2006
" I dont care how much I payed for my dog because when I saw that face I knew she was mine. I love her more than anything. Just because I payed alot for her DOES NOT MEAN I SUPPORT PUPPY MILLS. GOD"

OH YES YOU ARE!!! you are supporting puppymills by buying their product. That darling little puppy in the window of that pet store came from somewhere didn't it? Probably some big 600 dog farm in the middle of nowhere kansas. Guess whats left behind by your support? The sire and dam of that little cutie. Living in a chicken coop wire cage with its little feet standing on wire all day or in a huge barn with big fans to exhaust the ammonia from the urine. Probably not touched by a human hand other than to be given vaccines and to be placed in a whelping box to churn out her 10th litter. OH! and when she's no longer useful or getting older they'll hold a nice little auction to sell her to the even lower forms of commercial breeder. Then.. when she can't make no more babies that look cute in pet store windows they kill her however they kill those that are no longer useful. How wonderful!!! Glad you LOVE your doggie in the Window!!!!
Posted: 8:39:30 PM 1/22/2006
Bubbles
So why dont all of you that are making this a big deal just leave this part of the forum. Its so us puggle owners can talk about our dogs, and how much we love them, and what works for us training wise and just to have a "nice" conversation about our dogs.

Since this is a public forum, with ALL parts being open to all members, I suggest you accept the fact that there will be opinions which differ from yours which have equal rights to being posted.

If however you chose to establish a Puggle forum, by all means you have every right to dictate what may and may not be posted.

Its a dog, and its our choice to have them or any other dog we want, so just worry about yourself and dont be so quick to judge people's morals by thier dog.

I believe that the other posters were attempting to explain that no matter what you MAY believe, the majority of the designer breed pups are in fact being bred by those who are less than reputable or caring of their "breeding stock".

No one is telling you to love you pet any less. Just be aware of what it is you are supporting and the basics of breeding.


***Edited By: pyrmom on 1/22/2006 8:54:23 PM***
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Posted: 9:14:39 PM 1/22/2006
Bubbles1205 said:

"Wow you people still dont understand that some of us puggle owners arent following a fad. I got my dog way before then."

I say:

And you people still don't understand that it's not only the "fad" that we are concerned about. It's the millions of animals in shelters, rescues, humane societies throughout the world that are filled with these types of dogs: /uggles, /oodles, /poos. They happen enough accidentally, that it's terribly irresponsible for people to be breeding them for the almighty buck!

And, no, you're not following a fad...you helped start it! Good job!

Even for purebred breeders, I am a firm believer that the only reason to breed is to better the breed. If you can't or are unwilling to put in the time, effort and $$$ to do that, then there's no reason to breed your beloved pets. Just love them.

Discuss your mixed breeds all you want, we love to hear about it, but don't advocate the breeding of more when sooooooooooooooo many are homeless right now (with sooooooooooooooo many more coming every day)!

***Edited By: gbroxon on 1/22/2006 9:15:10 PM***
Reason: sp
Posted: 10:46:14 PM 1/22/2006
"Glad you LOVE your doggie in the Window!!!! "

hahahah wow! your clever! by the way, my doggie wasnt in a window, she was in a room with her sister and brother with water, food, toys and a couple dog beds.

I think its horrible that you are putting words in my mouth. I know where my dog came from cause I went to go see her parents and they are in VERY GOOD CARE. So why dont you get the whole story before you speak. I respect people opinions but I dont respect people making assumptions about people.

Anyways, I dont know if anyone read my question about how I can get Saydie to go faster than 30-40 minutes outside. Also, and suggestions on teaching not to beg (she didnt until she lived with my parents for a short time while i was student teaching, and now that I have graduated and have her back again, I want to have her trained not to beg again)

***Edited By: Bubbles1205 on 1/22/2006 11:10:52 PM***
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Posted: 11:19:30 PM 1/22/2006
I'm not sure if we are aloud to post pictures of our dogs, but here is the link for pictures of my little puggle wuggle Saydie :)
http://dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=149505
anyone else have pictures of thier puggles? Mine is black with a little white on her chest and I havent seen very many of them, only tans ones, so I am interested to see.
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