I was just wondering what peoples opinions where since I have been getting loads of crap about Mini Aussies and why I would spend money on one because it cannot be used for herding, this and that, etc.
Mini Aussies are a tough one in my book. I love the size of my guys (Shelties- but I bet you guessed that from my name, huh?) Anyway- I certainly see the attraction. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE for my guys to not have the Sheltie-skittishness. Not all Shelties are that way, but some are, and I happened into some that, while not mental cases, don't act anything like the Aussie-Chow-Golden mix I adopted. But then, there were things she did that I hated, too. So it's a trade-off, and there ARE some rock solid (aussie-like) personalities in the sheltie world.
I'm tempted to admonish you to consider a Sheltie. They are very similar in coat and many other traits. So, in some respects, there is already a purebred out there that is in the same niche (fuzzy, 15-30 lb, herding group). That said, I have looked at the photos and the contract (btw, looks fine to me too) and it would seem (from here, anyway) that you have found some decent breeders.
I wish you the best of luck. Ultimately you are the person who has to decide what dog you want. You realize, I think, that there is some flak that you will have to take for a "mini" aussie. It is kindof a designer dog.
merico i do not know enough about aussies to say whether or not a mini aussie is a real thing or not. my guess would be looking at the aussie club website and seeing what they have to say. if they say there is no such thing as a mini aussie then i guess thats your answer. the breeder contract you put on the other thread was a pretty damn good contract so even if mini aussies are not legit, at least you are getting one from someone who seems to be on the up and up so thats not a bad thing.
A "mini" Aussie is simply an undersized Aussie. When people breed outside of standards, there better be a damned good reason- and making a cute new pocket pet doesn't really qualify. When you breed for size (or coat, or color...) you aren't concentrating on the traits that really matter to a line- health, temperament, and conformation. You purposely produce litter after litter of dogs who don't come close to matching standards- which generally go on to further pollute the blood lines of the breed. It's an all around bad idea that's hard to justify.
Anyone who loves their breed will despise the people who use that breed to experiment on, naturally. You're going to catch flak. You either need to toughen up... find a good explanation for why standard Aussies weren't "good enough for you"... or question this choice yourself.
Well......I for one am not for mini Aussies but.....I would never give somebody a hard time about it. I do have a problem when they breed them to toy dogs like pomeranians and such. When they get that domed head look they look nothing like an Aussie. I think they are very cute and the size is great but I like the look of a true Aussie and the minis just don't have the look I like. If it bothers you and you'd like to escape the comments from people you can always get a smaller "true" Aussie. Lexie is 21", the top height for bitches. Though quality is not to be sacrificed in favor of size. Chloe is on the smaller end, she is 19" and I love her size. You could always search out a true Aussie that is around 18" which is the starting size for true Aussies and is also the end size for mini's. Just find a breeder that has small parents. I know tons of reputable breeders for Australian Shepherds if you change your mind. If you love the mini's and have thick skin then get a mini. I happen to love Aussies with a half white face but my breeder can't stand them but I don't care. I get what I want and to heck with everyone else.
Thanks Ln. They are actually just smaller bred Australian Shepherd, not mixed (at least mine are not).
I have no problem with the regular sized Aussie, they were at the top of my list. But I wanted to get another smaller dog roughly about the size of my Mini Schnauzer. Plus the size is ideal for our household.
I say, who cares what other people say. You are the one making he decision. You've done your research and know what kind a breeder you are dealing with. People here are pretty quick to judge people and don't know all the details. Just because you want a dog that doesn't fit "their" standard, doesn't make you a bad person. We know how much you love Kiba...so you'll do fine with the other dog. Go with your gut...if it feels right..then it is.
I have a mini aussie that I love to death. Lady is perfectly happy with me at work, playing catch with my son, or with my husband working cattle. A mini aussie that is a true aussie will still have the herding instinct. In my opinion any breeders that have bred the herding instinct out of their pups are not doing justice to the aussie breed.
As most of you know, I am a breeder of Mini Aussies. So having said that I have to chime in.
No they are not a designer breed. There are 2 parent clubs for the breed, and several reputable registries. National Stock Dog is one, and a very old registry, that first introduced us the full sized Australian Sheperd.
To give everyone a bit of back ground, before AKC was interested in Aussies, there were several different sizes. Smaller ones for small livestock, and larger ones for larger livestock. ASCA put a height limit (which has changed), becuase AKC asked them to do so. One of my orginal Aussies (years ago) was only 17". She was a little girl.
Yes there are breeders out there that are breeding the instinct out of them. Most of us are not. So whoever above said they cant herd, go watch a herding competion. They are there in full glory. My girl starting herding at 6months.
We can show them in just about anything, conformation, herding, agility, rally, etc. AKC has changed their policy about accepting breeds, and will no longer accept a variety of an already recognized breed, so they will not accept us. They want us to be a seperate breed, but seeing as all we have are Aussies behind us we cant. All The reputable breeders will not mix something into the mini aussies just so AKC will accept us, we would rather not go in.
To the original poster of this tread, Get one and enjoy them. I have never been happier, and it is much easier to carry a 30lb dog then a 60lb dog up the stairs. BEWARE of breeders not doing health testing, there are alot of health issues in this breed, and alot of people don't think they are a big deal. Some Can kill, and breeders use those affected dogs anyway. Do research, and get all the info you can. Don't jump on a cute puppy, all puppies are cute. Look for a healthy one, with parents who have been tested for eyes, hips, mdr-1, pra, thyroid, etc.