If puppy mill and back yard breeders are such a bad thing and cause many problems... why do AKC approve of their registration??? I see alot of breeders sell their puppies with "papers" without those "papers" their puppies have less value... so why do AKC or other registry accept their registration???/?? Doing so aren't ACC, AKC, CKC, etc... just feuling the fire????
AKC isn't an organization that can police and inspect every breeder. they just don't have the resources and that would be an astronomical job. i don't think any registry could do that. they are a record keeping thing and a sponsor of events, shows, sports, education, etc. for purebred dogs. it's up to the potential buyers to educate themselves and really check out a breeder. and it's up to the breeders to have a conscience and follow it. and even if a registry could inspect all breeders, who's to say the breeder wouldn't be hiding things? it would be too easy to put one over on the inspectors.
that is true... but it would be a deterent if a registry don't register someone who have more than 20-50 dogs under their name.. (puppy mill)... then there's no profit in it and thus reduce puppy mill..... right???
i do believe i read this info on here, and minni would know more then i about the akc stuff, but i fdo believe that any dog who breeds more then a certain amount of litters in one year, or a person who registers more then a certain amount of litters in one year does raise eyebrows and they investigate those people. so many mills have now made up their own registries like the contkn, and the aca and the other ones. also dogs are being dna'd now by the akc to cut down on them registring puppy mill dogs, so they are lokking in to it.
If you register puppies with the same sire more than three times in one year, then you have to provide the AKC with DNA. They may be registered to different owners, too. Could be like a broker buying several litters from several different breeders.
oh yeah, if a household (not a person, but a specific address) registers more than 5 litters in a year, they're also investigated by the AKC. Puppy mill dogs in the AKC do exist, but so breeders have been banned from the akc for poor breeding practices that as Scout1 and Pearl haev said, they are making their own garbage can registries that will register anything and everything. Some examples are the ContKC, the National Kennel Club, American Puppy Registry and the Universal Kennel club to name a few.
The thing is, puppy brokers like the Huge one who's name is spoken of with great hatred in the dog industry but has gone completely out of my head (CRS) will get in touch wtih breeders and will pay extra for dogs with AKC papers. Also, if a breeder wants to get rid of a litter and gets in touch wtih Petland or X pet store and says, "These dogs are AKC registered, i sell them to you and you sell them to whoever.." Many pet stores are all over that, because many buyers recognize the akc name.
I wish I had a nickel for every puppy buyer who's come here and said, "I got brand new dog of X breed and it's registered with <Insert shoddy 2nd rate registry here>. How do I register it with the AKC?" I'd have moved into a bigger house and have more than 1 show dog..
Puppy mills and BYBs are a major source of income for the AKC. The sheer quantities of registered dogs that come from them dwarf the number of dogs that come from privet “reputable” breeders, and is what makes the AKC a household name. The income from Puppy mills and BYBs is what finance the AKC. It would not be able to do what it does now with out it.
Putting any more pressure on breeders will drive them away to other registries in droves. This in turn will cut off the main source of their income and with in few short years their name recognition will diminish and people will start to look for dogs from one of the other major registry that will surely surpass the AKC in both numbers and popularity in no time.
In some ways, this already started to happen. With all the new registries that recently popped up. The AKC still holds its place for now, but they surely feel the pressure. Any more scrutiny on breeders and it won’t be long before they will be replaced.
Don’t let any one fool you folks, this is all about the money.
actually the AKC won't ever be replaced even if puppy millers and such do leave in droves. Why? Because the AKC is the only registry in the United States that is a member of the FCI, which is the premier worldwide canine registry. That alone ensures that it will go on in the global scheme of things. But it'd continue anyway, due to responsible breeders and dog lovers who do care about the AKC.
I say, so what if all the puppy millers leave. I'm sure the AKC's profits would go down, and possibly registration fees would go up as a result. Is the AKC perfect? Far from it. But at least the AKC is doing more with that $15 registration fee than the ContKC, the APR, the NKC and those other joke registries than lining their pockets. The AKC uses the funds from those registration fees to hold more canine events annually than all the others combined, as well as doing public education and promoting responsible dog ownership.
What exactly does the ContKC do with the $10 they are getting for every registration of those labradoodles and cockapoos and all the other so called breeds they register? Besides holding their whopping 50 or 60 events a year (if that much??)
I know more ppl are registering their dogs with DRA, ARF, and other off registries. I know DRA will let any dog be registered with a pic and 20 bucks. ARF is popular with all those small dog breeders. PPl say its because AKC is harder and more of a hassel to register a litter so ppl are going to ARF. I think AKC is moving forward to stop the puppy millers but there is plenty of off registries to take the money and give the crap papers.
Good morning yall.... this is a fine morning indeed... so let me start off with a hypothetical question as I am trying to find out what is legal and what is not legal in term of AKC registration rules.
an owner has 3 litters to register in the same year, two breeds of dogs, one of the stud sire two bitches, now is that legal or illegal??
an owner has 4-8 litter to register in the same year all are the same breed.. 2 sires between these litters...is that legal or illegal??
(of course we all know this kind of thing are done by BYBs and MIllers)
would AKC pick up on it and deny their registration???