In order for any breed to be a breed, it has to have 'bred true' for several generations without any input of a new breed. Careful records must be kept. All of the offspring should grow up to be the same size as the adult, and have the same appearnace as the adults. Any that don't look like the adults are neutered/spayed and removed from the breeding pool. A standard that physically describes the breed must be in place and all breeding programs should adhere to dogs that closest resemble that standard. A National breed club that promotes the new breed and responsible breeding practices for members involved in devleopment of that breed is also required. Once there's a certain number of dogs total of that breed and all other qualifications are met, then you apply with different registries for foundation stock for the new breed.
Obviously this is a long and drawn out procedure that can take 30 or 40 years or even longer.
This is why cockapoos and other mixed breed dogs are having so much trouble finding recogniztion as a breed, because they still don't breed true, mostly because people keep breed in a purebreed poodle to keep the coat type of the poodle. In fact, despite the cockapoo club of america even has a written standard for cockapoos, they still recommend breeding a purebred poodle into the cockapoo lines to maintain the correct coat type. Any time you introduce another purebred into the breeding pool of the developing breed, you basically are having to start all over again.
WHen I was in high school there was this cartoon show called " Samson and Galiath" it was about two super powered boy and his dog. When he use his power, his dog also turn into a big huge lion that he put a saddle on and ride him. I was thinking.. what if we mix a siberian husky or malamuth with a great dane. Wouldn't the offspring be huge as a lion or at least look like a lion???? that would be so cool...
The most often overlooked aspect of dog breeding is the fact that it is not a solitary activity. It takes many individuals with the same basic goal to maintain a breed properly.
In this day and age it is virtually impossible for an individual (or even a few individuals) to house enough animals to maintain a viable isolated genetic pool.
Do you see what I mean? A closed breeding population needs a tremendous amount of genetic diversity in order for that breeding population to survive in the long term.
So, if you are thinking that you'll start with a few dogs and all future specimens will descend from those few ndividuals - you're planning something that will not succeed.
If on the other hand, you want to be part of a large movement to breed a certain "type", that type being different than anything that already exists, it should be ok, if they're are enough different people who are "in" on the plan. It would probably be necessary to have at least 100-200 unrelated individual dogs to make up the original dozen generations. You need to be prepared to add NEW genetic material to each generation for many many years BEFORE cutting off introduction of individuals who aren't already part of the gene pool.
Within existing breeds, those with the fewest founding ancestors have the most health problems....because of a lack of genetic diversity. The aspect for these breeds is grim.
So, in order to start a new breed, one should try to have many many people with the same goal committing themselves to the process. This way many many founding dogs can contribute the original genetic material..
There is nothing moral or immoral about this process - but ignorance for the need for genetic diversity is a tremendous danger.
Icy--hehe the Great Pyrenees is more like a Polar Bear mixed with a Lion. Thy compare the great pyrenees head with a polarbears. Muzzle and Everything. I would say the males more or less look like the lion becasue they have the fuller maines around the neck and females dont have such a full coat like the males. lol
Anyways---why creamte a new breed--out of thw 168 some breeds, none of those suite what you are loooking for in a breed. Than save a life and adopt.
great pyr Size: the height at the withers ranges from 27 inches to 32 inches for males and from 25 inches to 29 inches for females. A 27 inch male weighs about 100 pounds and a 25 inch female weighs about 85 pounds.
great dane The male shall not be less than 30 inches at the shoulders, but it is preferable that he be 32 inches or more, providing he is well proportioned to his height. The female shall not be less than 28 inches at the shoulders, but it is preferable that she be 30 inches or more, providing she is well proportioned to her height.
You can't put a saddle on any dog (regardless of size) and ride it. Unlike horses, they have a flexible spine. I doubt sincerely that you could ride a real lion, either, LOL.
If you are interested in a dog taking you places, look into carting or dogsledding. You just can't ride a dog; they aren't built to hold up to it the way horses are, but with the right kind of harness, they can pull a cart.
if you get a female black lab and a male american bulldog, they make some great looking dogs. a bulldag body but all black with just a couple of small, if any, white areas. i have some and am thinking of keeping one. i have two dogs already but have to get rid of one of them. they both have their pros and cons but my x doesnt trust them with the kids as far as she could throw them. besides, one has a fatal sickness and the other is loud, stubborn, and likes to run a lot and im going to be in a quiet building with no yard. decisions decisions