Excuse my ignorance on this issue, but I have never owned a purebred or ever even bought a dog, only adopted mutts. My newest addition, Harry, is a four month old lab/poodle mix (aka labradoodle). A co-worker of mine bought him at a pet store and due to personal unfortunate circumstances was unable to keep him. So, I took him for her. I'm curious though, when she bought him at the pet store they told her he had "papers" (which she is mailing to me but i haven't seen yet nor do I really care that much). I am well aware that he is not a "breed" so what exactly are his "papers"? I know this mixed breed issue is a hot button and I'm certainly not trying to start up a debate, I am merely curious as to what the store means by "papers". Thanks!
what hope said. there are some registries out there that were formed for the sole purpose of providing papers for these mixes in hopes of getting them validated someday. and then there are the registries that will give you papers on animals that even remotely look like a dog. i would be curious to see which registry issued the papers for your puppy.
when dealing with recognized breeds the papers are only important to have if you plan on breeding, or showing in club related events like conformation, etc. alot of agility and rally shows are held now by clubs that allow mixed breed dogs to enter so papers arent necessary for those things anymore like they were once.
That makes sense. Thanks! When I get the papers from my co-worker I'll let you know what organization it was that issued them. I will be posting pics soon. I am almost always at work when on TP (hard at work obviously ;) ), and all my pictures of my babies are on my home computer! But soon!
speaking of AKC papers.. how long does it take to register?? I had my dogs for a while now and now decide to send in their registration papers. I sent it in and they sent back to me saying i need to change some of the names to make it valid. Ok I did that and sent it in again. A day later my female gave birth to her litter. I hope everything is in good order so I can register her litter. Is it odd to register a dog and a couple of weeks later trying to register her litter????
Personally I would NEVER buy a dog from anyone not registered with the AKC -- www.akc.org. The over-all quality is just there and nowhere else.
Also, I would not buy a puppy from anyone not an accredited breeder -- www.accreditedbreeder.org. They all DNA test and do extensive health checks. If they don't, thy don't remain accredited long.
These the the two keys to making a good purchase. Buy with confidence. ---------------------------------------------------------------- There are other Kennel registration clubs I would buy from (CKC "Canadian, European Kennel). I tried to check out your link on the "Accredited Breeder.Org". Only got to their main page through the cached pages, would never give them money, looks like just another way to make money off people to me.
Well when I got home from work today the "papers" had arrived from my co-worker. Scout, i know you were curious about them so I thought I would share. Basically, all she gave me (and what I assumed the pet store gave her) was a peice of paper that said "Certificate of Pedigree" and then there was just a diagram of the pup's lines. There was no registry/organization listed or anything like that. It seriously looked like something I could make on my computer =) Again, I don't know what they are supposed to look like, but I'm assuming there should be SOMETHING else? Anyway, like I said, it means nothing to me, but I thought I would share since some of you were curious!
***Edited By: megbrink on 2/24/2005 8:49:08 PM*** Reason: spelling
megbrink, they probably *were* made on someone's home computer.
Typical registration papers will have a registration number, a seal of the presiding Kennel Club that is issuing the papers, the registration and names of the parents of the registered dogs, their colors, and any ofa certifications that have been issued.
well that kind of stinks. he has a good home now and you love him so where he came from is really unimportant at this point.i would have liked to have seen what registry registers them though. if they have a breed club going and stuff like that.
here where I come from those dogs run at about $1500 a dog they do have papers and they are a cross between a lab and a poodle make a good hunting companion or good for in the home also good luck with your dog. I think they have a web page called labradoodles you might look at it.
***Edited By: legand on 2/24/2005 9:28:35 PM*** Reason: added on
tullysalapahas, while it's true that a dog's registration papers are no indication of quality, they can be an indication of the irreputable nature of the breeder/seller. A person who registers their Doberman with the Continental Kennel Club or the APR and not the AKC immediately shows me that they're not someone I'd ever buy a dog from, because both of those are 'joke' registries for puppy millers and most likely from breeders who don't know any better.
Now if you have a dog that's not AKC registerable like for instance a Rat Terrier, a reputable breeder registers with a good organization like the ARBA, or the UKC.
So I guess while the registry doesn't necessarily indicate the quality of the dog, a bad registry does indicate the lack of quality of the breeder.
I agree. I could care less about registration etc--my Harry is absolutely PERFECT :) , but I think its kind of shady that a store is selling a dog with "papers" that have no organization/club/registry on it. It reflects on the store and also the breeder. Am I right? On the other hand it is the job of the consumer to do their job and check that kind of stuff out. Just my thoughts!