My Rotty died of cancer last year and he had actually first gotten cancer about 4 years ago. It started as breast cancer and they removed it. He lived for quite a while and then eventually it came back, but in his stomache this time. I know a lot of people who's dogs are or have died of cancer. I wanted to know why too. I thought it had to be something in the food they eat. I posted some information I found from the animal protection institute on this forum that was about the same thing in this article. It was about the commercial pet food. A lot of people were disgusted by it. Some people just blasted me for saying it. It is a fact that pentobarbitol is in pet food. If tiny amounts can't do a lot of damage, I think eating it all of their lives can. I don't think I'd be happy to have just a minute amount of cyanide for dinner every night. "In such tiny amounts, it's harmless". I don't buy that.
My moms friend told us about over vaccanating like ten years ago.Her cocker died and she did a bunch of research into it.I think she said that had brought agression up to but I don't know if she ever really proved that. They go in every four years or so now.
Well, not only what they eat, but I am afraid of the flea and tick meds. Thank goodness we don't have a flea problem where we live but its scary not only what we are feeding them but what we eat. Look how many people are dying of cancer. If we just knew what all was in what we eat, and even the toothpaste. Most people probably don't know that cynide is in out toothpaste too. The reason I know, is because my husband works for one of the biggest transportation companies and one of their customers is a pharm. co. that buys it for toothpaste. Scary isn't it??? More and more I am thinking about feeding mine more meats and cooked vegistables. Couldn't be any worse than probably what they are getting processed.
i havent followed the current vaccine protocols for at least the last 13 years. i do all the puppy vaccines and then rebooster until they are three years old and then thats it except for the rabies which is required by law. but, i dont vaccinate for rabies past ten years of age. you can by pass the law by having your vet write a letter for you saying either your animal has a condotion where vaccinating is not in the animals best interest or that the dog is too old for vaccines. every township i have heard of will accept this. i think more people need to be more aware of what is beneficial for their pets . the majority of veterinarians are still going to encourage people to vaccinate yearly for a variety of reasons. one, it is a HUGE part of their annual profits, two because if people stop coming in yearly for vaccines then we may not see anyones pets until there is a noticeable to the owner problem. where as in alot of cases if they had come in on a yearly basis we may have caught something earlier and been able to treat it easier. i cant tell you how many times i hear vets saying derogatory things about clients who dont vaccinate their pets yearly, yet they dont either. i know plenty of vets who will still vaccinate sick animals. my mothers ex-vet is one prime example. my mom had a shepherd years ago who was diagnosed with cancer, the same day the vet told her her dog had cancer , the vet gave her all her vaccines. i about flipped my lid when i heard that. there are blood tests out there now that can test the level of protection that the previous vaccines are providing. the downfall to this is they are expensive and most people do not want to spend the money for the titers if they may have to vaccinate their pet anyway. it becomes a cost factor. it is hard to change to new ideas when vets have been pounding the routine vaccines down our throats for the past 30 years, but as medicine advances so do different views and new evidence that what has worked for so many years may not be necessary anymore. i do hope the avma does change their guidelines on vaccine intervals.
as for the food discussion......that always turns nasty so i wont touch on that one :)
Cricketmom, yes I only do the once a year rabies vacine as I have heard the 3 year one has had problems of dogs dying. I only do the other shots once every 3-4 years.
Mollysmom, I am so sorry to hear about your Rottie! My Rottie dyed of cancer too at 9yrs of age. It was in his liver, & pancreas. Rotties are proun to cancer & parvo.... this was back in the early 70's too.
what is this 1 year rabies vaccine you are talking about ? the rabies vaccines we have always used for the one year shot and the threee year shot are the same exact vaccine. a puppies or kittens first rabies is only good for 1 year, then the next one is good for three and reboostered every three years. but the vaccine itself is the exact same one.
There's cyanide in toothpaste? OH MY! Rhonda, thanks. I miss my Harley. My father and I have quite a lot of friends and acquaintances whose Rotties have died of cancer. I was told by the doctor and technicians who put him down that at 11 1/2 years old, he was a very old Rottweiler. They said most of them expire by 7 to 8 years old. Sad.
My opinion, for what it is worth, is that the reason that the cancer rate is higher is that dogs are just living longer, we have better vet care, more access to vet care, and cancer is better diagnosed today than it was many years ago. It used to be, the dog got old and the dog died of "old age". Well, now we take our failing old dogs to the vets, and they have the tools to diagnose that the dog actually has cancer. It (cancer) isn't necessarily more common, it is just found more often because now people actually LOOK for it, rather than just accept that the dog is old and about to die.
That said, I do not vax mine every year except for rabies, which is required by law. The one year and three year dose of the vax is the same. The difference is the packaging, for states like mine (Arkansas) that require it be done every year.
I'm with hopesheltie on this. Dogs live longer than ever due to better veterinary care, even if they are over vaccinated. While I do believe that our pets are overvaccinated, I also know for a fact that it wasn't for the expected annual vaccinations, hardly anyone would take their vets to the vet for annual checkups, which means that problems might not detected until it's too late.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 2/25/2005 9:45:29 AM*** Reason: edit
I don't have a dog but i just wanted to add that i totally agree that some vaccines have affects on animals. My cat (who was healthy , never been sick for the last almost 3 years) had her booster shots about a month ago (Rabies 3 yr. and FVRCP boosters) and within 2 days of getting the shots she started having bladder issues and was diagnosed with FLUTD. Now everyone seems to think that it was just a coincidence but i don't. I wish that i would have just done the rabies shot. I just don't understand how a perfectly normal and healthy pet suddenly gets sick only 2 days after the vaccines......hmmmmm...... She hadn't been to the vet in 2 years and she was fine. I don't know, i think the shot had something to do with it. I probably sound ignorant about vaccines but I don't care LOL I just know that my cat hasn't been the same since.
On your cat, it might not have been the vaccines but the stress of the vet visit could have also been a trigger for bringing on the problems as well. No one can be sure. I hope your cat is doing better!
Well she is doing a lot better. She is in heat right now and peeing all over just like she normally does LOL She is eating better and just plain looks better. I have also considered the whole stress thing too....also vaccines can lower the immune system for a breif period of time which in turn makes FLUTD flare up. So....there is a # of reasons it could have happened. Either way i feel guilty. =(