Ok, so i haven't posted in like......forever, been so buisy getting everyone in new happy homes, work, and my two yr old daughter. I need mor hours in a day. Well I have to say I was pretty ferturbed the other night and would LOVE to hear your opinion. I went to mcDonalds to get some dinner (to tired to cook) and Enforcer just had to come with me so i figured why not i'm going through the drivethrough so he can ride. I also brought along my daughter. The line was pretty long so we were wrapped around to the front of the building, enforcer was in the front seat and his window was cracked enough to get his nose through. Next thing I notice is a woman and her 9 yr old son walking towards the car to go inside, only he stopped and stuck his hands into the window. Let me remind you I have my daughter with me (who Enforcer is very protctive of) So natural instincs he growls, does not bite. The woman flipped out started screaming at me like i was crazy for having such a viciouse dog. Demanded to see his rabies tag (which he does not wear, i keep it in my wallet) wrote down my tag number and threatened to call animal control. Needles to say I haven't heard a thing from them, but I am pretty pissed (excuse the language) but I am. Her son had no right to place his grubby hands inside my vehicle. I do have one question, if he had been bitten would i be held responsible?
i dont know if you would have been held responsible but i would hope not. you did not invite the boy to pet your dog and the boy had to put his hand in a crack thru your car window. alot of dogs are protective by nature and the boy not being invited by you to see the dog is intruding to your dog. i know how you feel about the boy doing what he did i had a pitbull and a rottie living with me for awhile and the neighbor kids liked to tease them, then they would yell at me and my roomies for having aggressive dogs in the yard,the completely fenced in yard. we actually had animal control over several times because the kids would complain to their parents that the dogs were being mean and growling and barking at them. the kids would put thier hands thru my fence and tease the dogs or they would hang over the wall and tease them. anyway the point is i know how frustrating it is to be in that situation and all you can do is take a deep breath.
THIS ARTICLE JUST MAKES WE WANNA SLAP THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE...that woman was probably a complete moron..this has happened to me before and I know how you feel boxer girl. The sad thing is the dog owners always are in the wrong (I quote) "YOU SHOULDN"T HAVE SUCH A VISCIOUS DOG OUT IN PUBLIC," My answer back is "Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to breed such an illerate group of kids. SHUT UP," let the dogs be and stupid people step off! -PUBLIC
I saw your posting and got curious and looked up dog laws. It looks like most of it depends on what state you're in but from what I can tell they have one main thing in common, a vicious or dangerous dog is a dog that reacted in a harmful way without provocation. I live in Ohio and according to their laws you wouldn't be responsible for any damage done to the boy. If that boys mother made any phone calls about your dog, my guess is she was looking to make a buck and didn't get anywhere. I don't know where you live but like I said, I think most state laws are similar. I posted the Ohio dog laws here regarding vicious dogs and it doesn't sound like your dog fits that category. Personnally, I don't think you have anything to worry about because based on your story, the boy didn't get bitten. If anyone broke any law, sounds like it was the boy, and in that case of course, the mother would be held responsible. Be kind of funny if she called the humane society and was told that herself. Dangerous Dog Statute The Meaning of a "Dangerous Dog" Under Ohio law, a “dangerous dog” is: a dog that, without provocation, has chased or approached in either a menacing fashion or in an apparent attitude of attack, or has attempted to bite or otherwise endanger any person, while the dog is off the premises of its owner or keeper and reasonably controlled by a person, or not physically restrained or confined in a locked pen which has a top, locked fenced yard, or other locked enclosure with a top. The Meaning of a “Vicious Dog” A “vicious dog” is: a dog that, without provocation, has killed or caused serious injury to any person; a dog that, without provocation, has caused injury, other than death or serious injury, to any person, or has killed another dog; or a pit bull.
Oh, looking at your posting again.. Even if the boy would have been bitten I still don't think you would be held responsible. But that's just my opinion. It's a good question. If I were you, I would call the humane society in your area and see what they say.
There are a lot of crazy people in this country looking to make a buck from our jackpot justice system. Congress just passed a law to prevent people from sue for obesity like the people who are sueing McDonalds. Come to think of it McDs has had a couple of unfortunate suits including the one by the lady who sued them for 'hot' coffee. just crazy......
there are going to be stupid people like this wherever you go. thats why it is so important to keep a careful eye on your dog(s) at all times and try to anticipate when something may occur. like when i take my dog out with me i am always watching her for instance at the gas station when the guy comes over to your window. i will keep an eye on her to make sure she isn't going to do something. if she looks like she might i intercede before something happens. if you know your dog is protective and you see someone walking in your direction, watch your dogs body language. if he looks like he's ready for something redirect his attention onto you. walk the opposite way until the person is gone or in the case of the car tell him to go in the backseat or call his name and stuff a treat in his mouth. i hope you wouldn't be found at fault but we all need to be more careful because of the rampant stupidity of other people.
my friend had a chow chow, named charlie. and they baby sat a little boy around 6 or 7. well one day when his mom came to pick him up he started jumping on charlie and kicking him, and him mother did nothing. charlies owner came out of the house and seen the little boy doing this and the mom just standing there so she yelled at the little boy to stop but by that time charlie was fed up and bit the little boy. thats when the mom sayd "I hope you have insurence!" she didnt even go to check on her son, charlies owner did. and his mom sued her. and cause charlies recurords were still out in oregon, he was put to sleep.
Those kinds of stories just irritate me . People wonder why children get bit. Stupid humans.Sometimes i'm embarrassed to be part of the human race. The other day ,the people that live across from me ,they had company over,and I happened to notice that they let this little girl out to play with the family Mastiff with no adult supervision. Grant it he's a gentle giant. Dogs will be dogs ,and things can happen. This is why so many children get bit,because of stupid humans.
another thing is, people can certainly tell a different story than what happened- that woman could say that your window was down and enforcer lunged out. people are that low, too. sounds like enforcer is a very good dog. he protected, and sent a warning, but he didn't bite. i would say protect yourself and your dog from people like this and when you are stopped roll up the window next to enforcer. hearing about the chow having to be put to sleep when it only acted like a normal dog is so sad. don't let that happen to you!
Speaking of people telling a different story. This is dog on dog related not human related. I felt it kind of fits humans who like to lie about a situation.I went to get dog food and took Piper. My hubby was home and let Tigger out. These kids who just moved in where walking their dog,but on no leash . Tigger who's very territorial got into a fight with this dog when it came on our property. The kids where kicking and punching Tigger,my husband heard commotion and went out and pulled Tigger off of the dog. They said the leash broke. It was in his hand and fine. They left and called the police and told the police my dog went into the street and attacked their dog. Well no one came that night. I also called the police ,they told me what these punks said. They no my dog wont leave the property. I spoke to AC the next day,he knows the truth. Ever since though ,they try to start problems. They'll drive past my house really slow and try to intimadate us. I think they feel inadiquette some how about them selves.They still let their dog run off leash in the street. The other day I was walking Tigger and both dogs almost got into it. My hubby said just let it happen,don't worry so much. I hate people like that.Stupid humans.
i really don't see how you could be held responsible if the child put his hand inside your window. his mother should be smacked for letting him. guess she hasn't taught him to ask first or never touch a strange animal. i really wouldn't worry about her too much, sounds like one of those types who looks for something to happen, so she can take them to court. crazy people in this world....
She probly flipped out because she new the son did a stupid thing, Anyone who know dogs could see that it was stupid. Dogs are just as territorial of the car as the house. I wouldn't worry, just tell the truth. Her son walked up to the car and stuck his hand inside the car. Boy that is stupid.
my dog used to stick his head out of our cat door in our garage when a neightbor boy would play basketball in our drivway, (tresspassing and uninvited, and after being told repeatedly not to play there, while we were gone, of course, because it upset the dog!!) anyway the kid decided to start hitting our dog with ball, to make him be quiet! IDIOT!! of course the day came when my husband opened the garage door coming home, my dog got loose while the kid was in our yard, hitting the dog, on OUR property...and our dog started barking really loudly and herding him in to our driveway. not once did he nip or bite, but, was very intimidating nonetheless. he was bringing that rotten kid to us to punish! pretty smart...especially since the kid supposedly had the bigger brain. the dad, though, really got loud and went nuts, of course,and along came his adult brother, FOUR grown sons, and another person into our yard demanding we shoot "that vicious animal" on the spot or he WAS GOING TO GO GET HIS GUN>>>COME OVER AND DO IT HIMSELF! we offered to pay for any doctor, therapy, clothes, whatever and even to call the cops ourselves, but, for some reason, "cops" made them get real quiet and they left muttering about "taking care of that mutt" of course, there is a GOD and he made that family deadbeats, who snuck out on the mortgage or rent in the middle of the night. but, now we always are extra careful with our dog, CHAMP, because now he's super territorial, and dislikes new children and almost all men.
we have had problems with kids also. when i was younger (say about 12 yrs old), should i say "deadbeats" family to put it loosely, lived down the street.one of thier daughters came to our door and we hid not wanting to "play" . well she decides to OPEN OUR DOOR to let herself in. she didn't even get to get her foot in the door, our minni dash. ran her down and bit the liviving crap out of her!!! she was very very very lucky it wasn't one of our pit bulls, that would have not have been funny!!!!her parents were mad but she tresspassed and broke in our home!!! this girls older sister tresspassed in our neighbors yard one day to '"pet" their dog. they had a pit bull also. i gess because she saw me over there at times messing with the dog she thought she could. i knew this dog from a pup and it belonged to a little old lady that has seen me grow up and still is our neighbor!!!! well here came a nock at our door and she was standing there bleeding like crazy from the bite on her hand.i basicly gave her an old rag and told her to go home. mind you that this dog was on a run in its own yard!!!!they tried calling ac but there was nonthing that they could do because she tresspassed!!!! this "family" was a mess. they themselves had a chow dog.man was this dog vicious!!!they would walk around the neighborhood with this dog just to get it in a fight!!! well just to say they made a mistake one day and let the chow loose on one of my pits ( on a run in our yard) and lets just say that was the last they had of their dog. i was home, no cars were there so i guess thats why they did it.i broke the fight up because my dog would have killed it if i did not.all my dog was doing was protecting its yard!!!!!and he was tied up!!!!she took her dog home dripping in blood.my dog didn't even have a scratch!!!ha ha ha ha. served them right. ac took that dog the next day and had him put down. this was just one really stupid family and don't get me started on thier parents!!!they were worse than their kids.
Responsible parents teach their children respect for animals. They teach them that they should not approach an animal that they don't know. This 9-year-old boy sounds like a typical 9-year-old boy: he saw a dog, he wanted to say hello but he crossed a boundary that he shouldn't have. These things happen and hopefully a lesson was learned without anyone getting hurt. Responsible pet owners have a duty to protect the public from their pets, whether they're in a public area or in their own yard. They have a responsibilty to know their own dog's tendencies and anticipate any potential problems. If the dog in the car had been crated, as it should have been, there would have been no incident. If the dog in the garage (msg #17) had been crated, or in a fenced yard, it wouldn't have escaped when the garage door opened. If the dog in the front yard (msg #13) had been in a fenced yard, no incident would have occured. Crates provide a safe place for a dog to be, whether in the car or in the home, when the owner can't have full control over the animal. A fence serves two purposes: it prevents your dog from wandering into public areas or into neighbors' yards; it also protects your dog from children, strangers or other animals that may come onto your property. I hope that both parties learned something from this incident.
I really don't think your dog did anything wrong. It simply warned an introder to stay away from it's family. I mean seriously, how was it supposed to know that the boy was not trying to hurt you. Also, I think it was very irresponsable of the boy's mother not to explain to him that he sould not approach and attempt to pet strange animals. If he was to get bit by a stray dog with rabies and it would be her fault.