All you can do is search your area or do a google search. There are some posts that have talked about this...and it has gotten some not so nice replies. You can look back in the pages and see what you can find.
Thank you for helping me~! I have been tring to find out info. on the shichon (where to buy one) but I have not had much luck really. I live in P.A. and I dont know if there is any place close that has them. I am keeping an open mind about this pet, and I'm also looking for some other small size dogs...I dont know if I want a mixed breed or a purebreed..We had a choc. lab for 12 yrs. and she passed away this past sept. We loved her very much..but I would like to have a small dog this time, just dont know what kind. I would like something that doesnt shed much, and has to be good with kids is a plus. so if anyone can help me it would be great~!
I have a Bichon Frise who is the joy of my life. She is just super great. She has the best personality that I've ever seen. She makes us laugh all the time and is great with my 9 year old son. She is also great with the cats that have come to live at our house in the last two months. I really can't say anything bad about her.
Sorry, never heard of a schichon but let me say this...
I swear. I have never seen such a retarded freakin debate as you people have over these dogs. Both sides are right and both sides are wrong, yet you still can't get it. Hellooooooooo? WHY were dogs mixed in order to make the purebreds we have today??? Ding! Ding! Ding! Because the human population had a specific need. Now, lets move on to 1st grade and ask the next question. WHY are people mixing all these dogs and trying to make other breeds today? Ding! Ding! Ding! Because the needs of the human population have changed. We don't need a slew of hunting dogs today because our families aren't starving. Every fast food restazurant out there now has a $1 menu. We WILL eat. Some people would like to have one of those dogs, but don't want the hunting 'drive' in them. So what do we do? We cross it, hoping to keep the look, but breed out the desire to hunt. This is just one example. Why do we need more allergy friendly dogs? Didn't people always have allergies? Yes they did, but things have changed. 'Back in the day' people's homes weren't insulated as well and those who had indoor pets were exposed to more ventilation. 'Back in the day' dogs stayed outside. 'Back in the day' we didn't have all the air polutants that we have today. As allergies got worse, we looked for ways to combat the problem. People who are specifically looking for a toy dog, an allergy friendly dog, a 'whatever' dog, are not being scammed. They know what they want and they find it.
I am all for responsible breeding, adoption, rescue, and the same, but this stupid debate is just that - STUPID! Why do you continue to participate in it?
Maybe they'll go to a shelter, but chances are, if they want to buy a pup they are going to buy a pup. If I went to a shelter and they wanted to gig me for $200 bucks I'd head right down the road to the next BYB, at least then I could see the parents. I will NOT pay that kind of money for a dog whom I have NO history on and it's temperament is being judged by a volunteer. Nothing against the volunteers, I know they work hard, but thats my point. With so many dogs to care for I don't see how they can adequately judge certain things about a dog. Yes, I would much rather buy from a BYB then pay a shelter 200 for a dog I know nothing about. If they want $75, I'll talk to them. At least then I wont lose as much if the dog turns out to be untrainable.
My guess is that what I've just said is one of the main reasons people don't go to shelters. The price and because they don't know the history. This works for some people, not me.
You people really need to figure out a way to be more compatible on this forum. We are all different and we are all going to want different things and believe in different things. There is nothing ANY of us can do about that. Show some compassion to your fellow dog lovers and be glad that they are willing to love some kind of a dog, whether its a pure, mixed, toy, rare, exotic, one of a kind, or whatever.
Yes, the issues with the BYB's and Puppymills need to be discussed, but you can't continue to aim it at the people who come on here looking for these certain types of dogs. It's not the type of dog that is of concern. It's the conditions that any given type of dogs are in.
If you're such animal activists, have you been to your local zoo lately?
jbg, it wasn't this thread per se, thatt set me off. It was the constant battle that I read bout on other threads and then I saw this one heading the same way. It's always the same thing on every one of them. Petfinder is not the only place on the planet that has these dogs. There are breeders too. It should beup to the OP to seek out what they feel is a breeder that meets their needs. Whats wrong with a few replies that say something other than "petfinder, shelter, petfinder, shleter, petfinder, spay your dog, shleter, petfinder, you don't need a dog, petfinder,".
***Edited By: Atomic Dog on 3/13/2005 6:03:12 PM*** Reason: because I wanted to
Im sorry to have started an "argument" on this topic.....
I just wanted to know where I can find a shichon or some other "wonderful" small dog that I can hold in my arms and love. I miss my choc. lab "chelsea" and I just want to find some info. on some puppies. Like I said in my first post, I dont know if I want purebred or a mixed...I have read where (some) of the mixed breeds have better health? But I dont know for sure about that, thats why Im here looking for some help~! If anyone could help me plz. do~
On the health issue it depends who you ask. Anyone for it will say they have better health adn people against it generally say that its not always true. I know a couple of researchers/doctors that do the genetics stuff at the college are against it because it doesn't take the bloodline far enought to make any difference. You'll hear something different everywhere so you just have to decide how you feel about it. I see it as half the litter may be healthier how the genes end up, but the other half may not be. It really all depends.
* Just to add- My pound always gets in lab mixes that are really small. You may be able to find a dog a lot like your lab but smaller. I know for a lot of people labs are a lifetime breed so it was just a thought!
And I'm just going to add the story about my dogs in too. We got them from a lady that rescued them from the pound and they were beagle terrrier mixes. One looked just like a beagle and one looked just like a wire hair terrier. They definately have no blended looks(although the rest of the litter did). The beagle I still have(she is about twelve or thirteen) and other than getting a slight growling problem(she can't see as well anymore and thats the only reason she does it) she is fine. Her sister had to be put down when she was like three because she just had health problem after health problem.
She definately inherited no genes but to be cute and that never helped her except for getting into the house in the first place:) She had nerve, bladder, heart problems and I'm sure if she would hav elived into old age it would have ben much worse. She was a sweet dog for all that was wrong with her though. I know their mom was decently healthy because she got taken in by my moms friends sister. Now I don't know about the dad but that is basically why I think its pointless when you can go to the pound and help a dog that has no chance at all. And i see it as even if they do get a health problem you gave them a good however long they are with you. And i have sen puggles that are full of energy but can't breathe. No one can convince me that it is right.
***Edited By: joce on 3/13/2005 6:49:46 PM*** Reason: fj
I do hope you find what you are looking for. Don't let the rudeness of a few keep you away. When I was looking for a dog...I checked the shelter in my area...not anything that I was looking for. All the dogs where bigger than I wanted. I kept my eyes open for ads in the paper...again not many in the area..we live in a small town. I did some internet searches in my area for rescues and just started going through the breeds that I was interested in. I finally found a breeder close by that I visited and found her to my liking. It takes a lot of hits and misses before you find the right dog for you and your family. I tend to use Google to search for most things. If you are interested in a certain AKC breed, then go to the website and they will have breeders in your state. If you are looking for a mix...then the papers...or shelters are the best way to go. Some pet places hold adoption days and you can go to them if you live close to one. Good luck and let us know what you get....
I have 10 teddy bear shichon pups that will be ready to picked up 6/4 or to be shipped on 6/10. They are a Bichon/Shih-Tzu mix! They will have a vet health certificate, first shots, and worming. They are family raised with children and get lots of socialization! I live in the Philadelphia area. I am currently taking deposits to hold your puppy! Email me for more info and pics!