pits the lab rescue wrote me back and said the could only help dog here is dallas. they suggest putting them on petfinder. I have never done this but could figure it out, let me know if you want me to start putting some of the up.
problem is we do not have vet references on these dogs. I do not have the funds to get these dogs up to date on their shots. I have no funds to spay or neuter. Anyone who takes them is going to have to do so as if they found them on the side of the road because there is no way I can do all this. As for Pet finder lol you have as much info as I do. Some of these dogs don't even have a name. We have to pretty much guess the breed and I have up approx age and if male or female. The femals shep mix and the Male Lhasa are the only two altered that we know of. Now there may be more altered males as not all neutering removes the testicles. Some are left intact. which makes no sense to me but anyway. I hear it is cheeper that way but who knows. I always had mine removed. (well my dogs that is lol) She is not looking for money for the dogs just wants to find them homes. As far as contract lol we have not even gotten that far yet. I am just running wide open trying to do ten thousand things at once!
***Edited By: pitsanddobes on 3/18/2005 1:32:45 PM*** Reason: fgdshg
P & D - Question for you. You mentioned that people have dropped off their dogs at this kennel and abandoned them there. Doesn't the kennel ask for a drivers license to verify address & information when you board a dog there?
I believe the owner of the kennel could go to the police for help, if she'd bring her records to the police station. They can run the drivers licenses and find exactly where the missing owners are.
Kennels in this area are very thorough when getting information on the owners and / or dogs when they're brought in for boarding. I would assume that a kennel in Georgia would be run the same way.
Very very good point Basset.....the owner of this boarding kennel could very easily sue the owner for all expenses including food and shelter for these dogs as well as any and all medical procedures that need to be done.
Another thing I forgot to add...when dogs are boarded, you need to provide a copy of the shot records. It would be easy to check the dogs records at the corresponding vets offices to attempt to trace these missing owners.
Don't kennels in all parts of the country require updated shots for all boarders? They do in Michigan.
as I stated earlier she was very trusting and perhaps too trusting. She has cards you fill out with the info on the dog and the name of the vet but never before did she ask for a DL and now she does. This was a kind hearted woman who people took advantage of. And it is really sad that the days of taking someone at their word are long gone. She requires a deposit now and a driverslicense from what I understand and perhaps if she had done this a long time ago things would not be quite as bad as they are. In her defense she did have employees there that did not do a good job at seeing that the paper work was filled out completly this was part of the problem. Some of these dogs I am sure had names at some time but when you don't make sure it is written on the card what can be done?
She has tried to find many of the people but you run into problems when fake names and addresses are given. I guess this is a lession well learned for those who wish to start a business. Anyone who boarded with me had to pay half up front and a $50.00 refundable deposit. Plus proof of address and identity. SS number the whole bit. I did not play games. And I charged a surrender fee to anyone who brought their dogs beggin me to take them. See I know I am soft hearted and hubby told me flat out that if anyone wanted me to take their dog because they could not keep anymore I had to charge a surrender fee. That fee was 60.00 for small breeds, 75 for med and 100 for large. And there were people who paid it too. But there were the ones that would come and refuse to pay the fee only to tie the dog at the front porch a few days later. *sigh* what can you do?
I know hind sight is 20/20 but if you ask me this doesn't sound like a boarding kennel....It sounds like a poorly ran shelter too me. Or no better a person with a big heart that is in fact a hoarder. I don't know any boarding kennel that would allow a dog or cat to stay with out verifying vaccations including bordatella at the very least, not to mention a phone number and names of the owners and an emergency contact. This is just my opinion.
she does ask for a name and phone number and believe me I know this woman well she is not a collector. She has a good heart and because of it she was taken advantage of alot. Gosh why is it people have to automatically think the worst. "a poorly run shelter?" Why would you say that? Maybe she did not use good business sense for a while but this is no shelter. She does not have to keep these dogs you know she could just send for animal controll trucks to come take them away and be done with it. Lets at least give her credit for having a heart and trying. Masters week is coming up and she could make big moeny if she had the free space. She is putting the lives of these dogs first and that deserves some credit if you ask me.
One of the dogs I rescued came from a vets office. The woman dropped the dog off showed a license gave 2 phone numbers and was supposed to be back after work to pick up the dog...Well, guess what....all phony info even the license....In the state of Mississippi you just started to have car insurance let alone be made to give correct info about your pet. Pitsanddobes...I will continue to help you the best I possibly can.. Maybe the bottom line is ..you are trying to not get the authorities involved because they WILL take the dogs and more than likely put most of them down. Personally, thank you for going out of your way to help them....
Wow, for once I actually agree with atomic. Pits only posted this to share these dogs and ask for help. Since Shadow is one of the adoptable pets, why NOT put him on there? There is a much better chance of him finding a home if you spread it out. I really don't want to get envolved in this, so I won't.
Anyways, I'd love to provide some type of transportation if possible. =)
***Edited By: ShAdOwDoG on 3/18/2005 5:34:55 PM*** Reason: gender bender
I agree with you ShadowDog, that P&D might as well put as many adoptable dogs as possible...the only thing I personally would have done different, is talked to Jazzy about it first..so that she wasn't so shocked to see the picture of Shadow.
P&D...I do want to add as well..that I am not bashing you for what you're doing...I think if you can help these dogs that you're a big person for doing so.
May I ask though...how one goes about screening someone over the internet to allow them to adopt a dog, to insure that they go to a good home?
This is something I have been thinking about. I know that references are a must. Especially for pit and bully breeds. I think that proof of address and ID are a must. I think that we need verifiable information such as phone numbers both work and home. References like neighbors and relatives and definatly vet references if at all possible. Also the transporters who deliver the dog to its final destination may find that the home is not safe or suitable for the dog and then what? In extreme cases such as this when we have done all possible things to screen will the transporters be willing to foster the dogs on an emergency basis such as this? These are things we all need to tlk about. And might as well now since we have a bunch of dogs in need of homes and may have more in the future from other places. All available and willing participants probably should set up a chat time where we can all talk about how we want to do this. The safety of these dogs is of primary concern here and we do not want to have these dogs put at risk they have been through more then enough. Well known members on the forum are a different story. Members like Atomic, Icy and Scout of course would not be given the once over if they were willing to take a dog. I am just using these members as an example as there are many members here we know well and would trust.
Any Ideas on how we can do this would be welcomed. PLease lets have input.