I could use a little advise from some of the breeders and/or trainers in this forum.
I just aquired a 2 year old male Dobie, his owner had passed on about a year or so ago and the dog was being fostered in a kennel atmosphear.
The kennel owner told me she feeds him Eukanuba and every now and then when he needs to bulk up she mixes it with a low protein, high fat and high calorie cheap supermarket food.
She told me if she gave him a controlled exercise period he would keep the weight on but if she let him run loose he would just run the weight right off. The dog has been in the kennel for the past 2 weeks and is quite skinny.
The fairly recient photos she sent me he looks like he was carying the correct weight, but now he needs some bulking up.
I know the cheap grocery store foods are not good for their coat and even health.
I am looking for safe and healty suggestions on bulking him up and keeping the weight off on him if he does indeed run it off.
I just moved the dog from South Carolina to New Jersey
***Edited By: Renorey on 3/17/2005 6:19:33 PM*** Reason: aditional input
So are you trying to have him lose weight or gain weight, or just put on some muscle? I wasn't sure which you meant. If he needs to gain weight, a healthier way then grocery store brand dog food is Satin Balls. Here is the recipe: http://www.dpca-breedered.com/satin_balls.html Running is a good way to put muscle on him, just make sure he is in a safe area.
***Edited By: Kdobes on 3/17/2005 6:28:04 PM*** Reason: fix
I am already feeding my 10 month old female Dobie a meat ball somewhat simular to that once a day and Cheval coat enhancer once a day along with Iams large breed puppy and she is maintaining quite well and her coat is like silk
how much does the dog weigh now? Dobermans are supposed to be on the lean side. You should not see their bones but rather be able to feel them. Perhaps you could post a picture of the dog so we can better see what you mean? What you consider underweight may not actually be underweight. Many people are under the misconception that Dobes need to be big thick dogs and that is simply not true.
I have had dobes for the past 28 years so I know they are supose to be lean but muscular looking. You should feel the ribs and even see a ripple of rib under the skin as they move but the ribs should not be pronounced when standing stil. The hind end should look muscular and the chest should be a barrel look. His ribs are pronounced, his hind end is thin and his chest is ok, his muscles are well defined. Don't get me wrong, he does not look like the skin and bones dog you see on the posters for starving animals, he is not that bad at all.
I received your email and I think I will try your diet and see how he does.
***Edited By: Renorey on 3/18/2005 7:26:54 AM*** Reason: additional input
"Try treadmill and weight trainig with it .We do that with our pitts and our rott and they are all bulk and fit. "
Thats nice until someone decides to accuse you of fight training. You do not need these measures to bulk up your dogs. Regular walks and ever runs can help a dog. Lots of exercise is the key and it does not have to be with a treadmill. If you have a breed of dog that requires a lot of exercize and you cannot provide that you have the wrong breed of dog for you to begin with. This is a Doberman we are talking about they are not built like Pits and Rotts. They are a leaner sleeker dog. Nutrition has a lot to do with the dogs physical appearence as well.
I agree with Pits on the treadmill thing. Although it's totally harmless to a lot of people, in some states it's illegal to even own those if you have dogs because of the dogfighting associated with it. I saw a thing on "Animal Cops" where they confiscated treadmills from a home and the owners were scrutinized for possible dog fighting even though it couldn't be proven. They went on to say that training a dog on a treadmill was illegal. I don't remember which state they were in though.
Treadmills are illegal some places and its stupid 2.If you cant get your dog out its a great way to excercise them.Also weight training is a sport.Where the dogs pull the carts with different amount of weight on them to show its strength.its like when huskies pull sleds...noone says their being trained to fight.
I would love to have a dog treadmill especially for the wintertime. When it's really cold I confess I get slack about going for walks. In the summer we are always outside, but in winter both the dogs and myself usually pack on a pound or two!