I see that when it comes to brands of food, alot of you reccomend Chicken Soup for the Lovers Soul.I cant get it where i live(Brooklyn New York) . Many people around here reccomend Eukanuba as being a top quality dry food. I remember around 15 years ago that it was, but in these days i dont know if they have kept up with the research to acctually put out a premium food as i here other foods are. I can get Eagle Pack around here , just wondering what you think.
This is from a previous post, but I thought it was really good. It lists ingredients of all dog foods. Be aware though, I talked to the guy who put up the website. There is SO much information on there, that some brands might of changed some of their ingredients. It's just a starting point. http://www.doberdogs.com/foodcht4.html
The reason being for people not wanting to use Eukanuba,which I use to use to is that it's owned by Proctor and Gamble ,they do very cruel animal testing.The pet store up the road from me who sells the Chicken Soup wont even sell any Iams products for this reason.
Just to add I have used Eagle Pack,it's a great feed,and Wellness, which is a great feed. The store that sold Eagle Pack was too far for me to drive,and Wellness was a bit over priced. The Chicken Soup for me is the best.
Eukanuba is a decent food, lots of dogs do great on it. My vet says that Eukanuba is so much like Iams, they might as well be the same. I live in an area of the country where premium foods are nearly impossible to come by. My dog does well on the food we feed him, he's healthy, his coat loooks great. When we get our newfoundland puppy, our breeder feeds Iams/Eukanuba. So I imagine I will be feeding that again.
Rednosered, out of curiousity, do you not use any proctor & gamble products? Or just not their dog foods? And where (and when) did you hear about the animal testing, got a link you can provide? I think 15 years ago, nearly every company in existence did animal testing that was unnecessary and probably crueler than many were comfortable with, that's just me though.
Yes Minniyar, animal testing was a common practice 15 years ago but due to advancements it's becoming less and less necessary and/or cruel. However, Iams (Eukanaba) still tests and is one of the worst for it. It is a disgusting practice and inexcusable and I've attended many a rally against their practices. Here's some links: http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm http://www.iamskills.com/index.shtml http://www.iamsodead.com/ http://www.dullcats.com/DoNotBuyIamsorEuk.htm Please think twice before you support this company! Where exactly did you get your newfoundland from? I'm not surprised the food that your breeder recommended because Iams/Euk are widely distributed in Canada and it's tough to find many alternatives. Yes we have big stores like Petsmart but we don't have Eagle, candidae (?), Chicken Soup, etc. to my knowledge and I've looked. (if someone knows where to find these in Ontario please let me know!) I can't speak for rednosered but I do not use any Proctor and Gamble or Colgate Palmolive to name a few(and their line is extensive). I also do not eat meat or dairy and I don't wear leather or fur. On a side note, I would like to acknowledge that just as things like child labour are very sneaky about their practices, so is animal testing. Many companies can claim they don't test on animals because the company themself does not do it. For example, you can buy a chemical used for mascara that has been tested, add it to the others required for the final product and still claim "not tested on animals".
The pet store I buy my food from gave me a pamphlet about the animal testing that Proctor and Gamble does. I misplaced it,but I have to get more food in like 2 days. I'll get another pamphlet and give the link to the animal testing. When I was looking through it ,it was so sad they showed a monkey still kept alive with it's mucles all sliced up in it's back. I seen rows of cages full of dogs and cats and stories about what they do to these poor animals.
Ohh I've seen those Iams kills links before. They're all hosted by PETA, and I don't respect, trust, or even acknowledge anything to do with that organization as worthwhile or my attention. IMHO they're little more than terrorists.
i think eagle pack is good; so is nutro, nature's recipe, i've used purina pro plan in the past and dogs have done fine. some of these have corn and wheat and i avoid those ingredients because when i've used those ingredients my lab gets real itchy and her ears get worse. but i still think they are good foods. the doberdogs site i think is good for education about what goes in a dog food.
One of the links is hosted by PETA. I don't agree with a lot of what they do either. But whether I'm in agreeance with their ethics or not it does not deny the fact that IAMS/Euk, tests on animals, as does their parent company and I will not support it.
Ok one of the links is hosted by PETA, and the other 3 use information that was 'uncovered' by PETA. If you read the information on each of those pages, each says 'this was discovered by PETA'. PETA is so bad about manipulating any information (good or bad) to suit it's own needs. I put all those sites in the same boat. In all honestly, I find it ironic that people who own pets support peta, as if that organization had it's way, all animals would be 'free', including domesticated dogs.
One of those web pages I looked at a while back really didn't prove anything to me. The video filmed cages with some cats in them. The cats who were acting like they had just been put in the kennels, and not like they were there for a long periods of time. They were young, they looked healthy and well fed and were meowing to the camera person. . The video didn't prove any wrong doing. I've seen smaller kennels in boarding kennels. I would like to investigate further, but mabe a different route, than through this Peta Org. And what kind of testing are they saying that takes place.What feeding tests? Iams and Eukanuba are the same company.
Iams/Eukanuba are the same company; Eukanuba is their premium brand. We used to feed Eukanuba to our show beagles but about a year ago started having problems with their food. We would open a new bag of food, feed the dogs one or two feedings, and soon everyone developed vomiting and/or diarrhea. Some of our pet owners reported a similar problem when using the Iams products. Through the show beagle e-mail list we discovered that other breeders were experiencing similar problems up and down the west coast. Samples were sent to the company for testing but they reported that the results were negative; no problem was found with the food. We switched to Purina Pro Plan, a brand very popular among beagle breeders, and have been happy with it ever since. While I haven't really looked into the animal testing allegations, I've been witness to some pretty passionate protests against their products. At the AKC Eukanuba National Championship last December, protesters were stationed outside the entrance to the show; you couldn't enter the show without being confronted. A week ago, I attended the famous Crufts dog show in England where, just as they were about to start Best In Show, a group of protesters ran into the ring, protesting the Iams/Eukanuba company. We hadn't heard anything about the big doping scandal while we were there but the Iams protest during Best in Show was pretty dramatic!
if you are going to stop using a dog food because they do experiments on animals to test their food then you might as well boycott veterinary medicine all together. how do you think they come out with all these vaccines and heartworm products and flea & tick products? all these were tested on animals in a lab. the only thing you don't know are the results of the kill studies, where these medications were giving in astronomical doses to see how much it would take to kill an animal. and how do you think vet students learn to do surgery? they pretty much are taught on animals that don't belong to someone. the students learn how to remove the organs, etc. and the animals are not woken up. i personally could not work in a reasearch lab. but lets be real here. everything is tested. unfortunately us humans in our infinite wisdom decided to use animals as our test subjects.