Hello Everyone, I am new to the group and please be patient if I error. I need some suggestions. I recently purchased an 18 mo Great Dane male and was told he was very well mannered...but I cannot find any good manners. It is difficult to say the least to put a leash on him and God Help Me if I do because he pulls and jerks me into trees and everywhere and I am afraid he going to pull me down. He beats me to death w/his bloody tail that has the end raw from hitting it on everything he gets close to. I have had him clear a 52 in panel and then a 6ft chain link when he wants to. I would like to keep him but I cannot afford a lot for a professional trainer and I invested in a halter that is a number 4 for big dogs but I think he needs the biggest one because this fits too close to his eyes but the store does not handle a large one. Is there any way to get him to calm down so he does not hurt me or anyone else? Please advise.
Hi there, I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles...
As I mull over your problems in my head, I know there is another member on this site that you might benefit chatting with. The screename is: FinCat She (he?) is the Proud owner of FOUR DANES! She likes to talk about them as well, you might want to catch her on if you see her.
Until then, I would definitely suggest at the very least Calling an obedience professional in your area and getting suggestions. Pulling is a hard thing to tackle even for the smallest of dogs. I know, my weim is a puller, and I've been taken by surprise Multiple times!! (And he's HALF your dog's size!) SO I sympathize.
Good call with the new lead...
I know that the company that makes the "Gentle Leader" has a new product that isn't in the stores yet...and it is a new harness that straps around the dog's front legs and the main point of it is right at the chest.Not around the face. I've tried it, and it's GREAT. Other people have tried is too and have had luck. keep an eye out for that when it gets out. I'll try to get the name of it for you.
I'll keep thinking. Keep a look out for other dane owners on this site, and "Fincat."
Here's some more info I found for you. I'll copy and paste it for you!! ********************************************
First of all, make sure you are using the right equipment. Retractable leads are useless on larger dogs and teach nothing on smaller dogs. This is my opinion: I think they are utterly useless and a waste of money as far as training goes. A good long rope works just as well (if not better) for recall training.
Body harnesses are another mistake on bigger dogs. While great for hauling, and securing your dog to an inanimate object (like a seatbelt device in a car), if the inanimate object is you, you might be in for a bit of a shock. Body harnesses were never designed as a leash training tool, they were designed to maximize your dog's pulling power when hauling a load behind him. They remove all obstruction to the neck and distribute the resisting force evenly to your dog's shoulders, where most of their forward strength comes from. To put a body harness on a large dog and expect to try and train to walk on a leash nicely is tantamount to asking for wrenched shoulders and skinned knees as you are unceremoniously hauled behind your dog while he goes where he wants.
A standard nylon buckle collar and a six-foot leash is all you will need for this simple training exercise.
My favourite method for leash training is the "tree" method. Become an immovable object until your dog ceases to balk at the leash and allows a slack to develope.
A session might go as follows:
Stand in place, allow dog to sniff around. Dog decides to go in one direction Human stands immobile allowing the dog to pull, but neither correcting this pulling, nor enforcing it (allowing dog to pull you iun that direction). As soon as a 'slack' is evident in the leash, move in the direction your dog wants to go (enforcing the slackness of the leash), and praise loudly. Stop dead as soon as your dog starts to pull on the leash again. Continue this daily, becoming a tree as soon as he starts to pull. Another fine trick is constantly walk in different directions. If your dog starts to get ahead of you, turn and walk the other way quickly. Praise when you get slack in the leash again.
You may have realized that the above technique works best if done before your large breed dog outwieghs you.Or you can use a good training collar. If you have a large dog with alot of power, these will help immeasurably. I must stress that these collars should be used as a training aid only, not as a permanent control solution. Training your dog to keep slack in a leash is by far the best solution.
You may have to invest in a pinch/prong collar. I have to use one on my 160 lb. male, Horatio. I tried using a Halti and a Gentle Leader on him, but he wasn't having ANY parts of either one, at all.
A pinch/prong collar looks pretty menacing, but if you put it on your dog properly, you don't need to worry about hurting him. The collar has prongs on the inside that when the dog pulls on the leash, the prongs put pressure on his neck so that he stops pulling.
Some people are probably going to have negative comments as far as a prong collar, but here's a test for you to do so that you know for sure that it doesn't hurt him. Put the prong collar around your thigh just like you would put it around his neck. Yank on the leash as hard as you can, and I guarantee it won't hurt.
Please keep in mind that you cannot leave a pinch collar on your dog when you're not around. It's not safe.
Any more Dane ?'s, feel free to ask away!
***Edited By: FinCat on 4/12/2005 12:24:21 PM*** Reason: spelling
If the prong collar doesn't work, carry around treats, in your pocket and lure him beside you, reward for walking beside you. You should take at least a beginner training class and get some help. The previous owner really took you for a ride, also perhaps the dog was not walked only stayed in a back yard. A friend of mind has a dane and uses the prong collar, it doesn't work if the dog is determined to go go go. Try ordering a gentle leader from your vet or pet shop. Good luck, I've seen staff members taken for a ride down the hall at work from Danes, were talken air born.
I aquired a 2-1/2 year old male doberman pinscher who's owner died a little over a year ago and the dog was kept in kennel until they found a new family for him. Since this dog spent so much time in a kennel he didn't know how to walk on a leash. My wife was walking him right after the last snow of the year and he leaned his chest into the choker and took her for a ride. She wound up in the hospital for a couple of days with both head and spine injuries.
I then purchased a pinch prong collar and he has learned to respect the leash. He sometimes bolts a little but the choker now keeps him under control. Very important you have the proper fit on the pinch collar and never slide it over his head.
Another trick when using a choker, slide it high on his neck close to his ears and slide the slide ring near the bottom of his throat and slightly to the side say between 7 & 8 on the clock. This will give you more control than at the base of his neck with the slide in the middle of his neck.
I also suggest you do invest in a basic lesson before someone gets hurt.
a prong collar is a very good idea but you need to have someone who knows how to fit a dog properly with one in order to get the correct size for it to be effective. you also need to look for a herm sprenger (sp?) prong collar. german steel is more durable and will last longer then the cheap knock off prong collars.
where did you get your dane from ? the dane resue in my area will pay to have obedience trainers come to the home for all new adoptees if they are having problems. if you got him thru a rescue you may want to check that out.