I owned an unaltered Akita that we rescued from a BYB in Georgia until right before Christmas. But she was only unaltered because we showed her in conformation. We had her spayed in December before she went to live with my mom and grandma. I lived with a friend that had an unaltered male chow/lab.. until it got to 18 months old. He bought it for $25 from a newspaper ad giving away puppies. At that time, the neighbor's dog went into heat and Ashir lost 10 lbs in a week (he weighed 70 to start off) stressing over mating with a neighbor's dog. (No, he was never actually allowed to get in touch with the in heat dog, we were very careful to watch him at all times when he was outside). He was neutered after that incident, that convinced me how cruel it is to leave a male dog intact when you aren't showing him.
Chili..I also think it is interesting to find out where the majority of these un-altered animals are coming from. Like are shelters adopting out dogs that aren't fixed (most won't and shouldn't)? Or are breeders not taking care that the puppies they are selling are getting fixed (on spay and neuter contracts)? Is it mostly pets shops and bybs that aren't concerning themselves with spay/neuter contracts, or are the 'responsible breeders' not watching out for (enforcing) this either? And wow..three unspayed bitches..do they not try to kill each other? LOL. Do you breed them? I'm actually surprised your dogs aren't spayed since you've been posting here alot lately about solving the overpopulation problem. Not that I'm criticizing, just sayin'. I guess I see now why you found my $500 a year fee so excessive ;) Like it or not though..bigger kennels and more shelters will not put an end to overpopulation problems, it will not put an end to millions of dogs being euthanized every year. The key is spaying and neutering. The government needs to get involved and crack down on this.
I think they do, either that or since they're bi-seasonal they all just tend to go into heat during the same time periods in spring and fall. Of course my Akita, the one time she went into heat, it was early June. She was such a rebel.
Thanks minniyar! Well, 2 of my unspayed females always growl at eachother. EX: I will pick up one and pet her, and then put her down, and then the other will run over and start to growl at her and put her paw on her back. Meanwhile, the little puppy just jumps all over both of them so that she can play, which just makes them more mad... lol. And then we have 1 neutered male chihuahua/yorkie that just stays out of it and goes to sleep in his bed. LOL! Yes, we got Wishbone (the mix) from a lady who bred the purebred mom with a half york/half chihuahua male that she owned. He is a very smart and playful male!
Chili --- I was just curious as to where the majority of un-altered dogs come from. Petland ?? BYB ??? Responsible breeders ??? Newspaper ads ??? I would think all shelters spay/neuter before adoption. It seems that there are so many posts about accidental breedings. I know it happens a lot, I was just wondering where all the intact dogs are coming from...and why people who do not plan to show do not spay/neuter. My guess is $$$ but many places have special programs that reduce the cost. North Carolina is trying to pass some breeding laws that would require ALL pets to be spayed/neutered unless you have a breeders permit. AKC is VERY MUCH against this...I do not know all the details, but off hand, it sounds like a good idea to me...if people showing their dogs could also get some kind of permit.
Oh...and dogs DO synchronize. I have 4 weeks a year of pure agony arround here. :) I am literally chained to the house for those 4 weeks. Some of my friends think I'm crazy. But they can't be trusted at that time.
I would definitely say the majority of unaltered pets come from newspaper ads put up by backyard breeders. Many people don't even realize there's other ways to locate dogs. They think the best way to find a dog is to shop for the cheapest one, just like you do a nice pair of shoes or jeans. Or even a vehicle, honestly. They don't realize that many times, you get what you pay for. Also many people who are answering those ads don't think about vet costs beyond the initial purchase price of the dog. And many (though not all) people who advertise their dogs in the newspapers are somewhat interested in making sure their dogs go to good homes, but they're also interested in the almighty dollar. I think many kind of panic the older the puppy gets and the longer it goes without being sold. They get like, "If this person wants this puppy, they're not quite what I was hoping for, but I need to sell it, I can't keep these puppies for much longer.." Most probably aren't even aware that they can sell the puppies on a limited registration, and if they are, they don't really care. After all, when the puppy is gone, out of sight, out of mind.
Oreo, our 15 year old pug, is unaltered. I found out the circumstances behind that from my husband. Just so nobody jumps on me, my husband and I have been married under 2 years, together less than 3 years, so I had no control over what he did before we were together. (But I have control NOW! haha) Apparently his dad got a male pug from a newspaper ad that said "with papers $400, without $250". When his dad passed away in '86, my husband got the pug. He then bred the pug (Winston) to a neighbor's pug, and kept the pick of the litter (Cookie), which he gave to his mother. He bred again later to another neighbor's pug and gave the pick of the little to his dentist as a form of payment. He then bred Winston to Cookie, and the issue was Oreo, Winfield and Fig Newton, none of which were altered. Winston, Cookie, and Fig Newton passed before my entrance on the scene. Winfield we had to have pts 2 years ago last month. Oreo is still with us but has prostate cancer. Anyway, long story I know, but you can see how having one unaltered dog can become many. My husband has since learned the error of his ways, and I always make sure my animals are altered. Except, of course, my turtle and my mare!
I think your right Mini --- most come from newspapers. And they DO get worried as the pups get older ! luvmymutts----I'm SO glad you "reformed" your hubby :) (LOL) I think mostly that's exactly how the cycle starts...or continues. Chili -- you really need to think about getting your turtle "fixed" (TEE HEE) Dogwant----I've never heard that before-but it sure could be true. One more reason to spay/neuter !! Thanks for your replies !!