Hi, everyone, I live in the state of Illinois and I am trying to find a pound or rescue that will adopt out a small breed dog to a family that has children under the age of 10 yrs. I found the most adorable 3 year old lil mixed doggie that I wanted to adopt from a pound not to far from my home, but they informed me that I could not adopt from them as my kids were under the age of 10 reguardless of the size or age of the dog. And this is not the first time I have come across this problem before. How is a person supposed to help save doggies from the lives they have in a pound if these places keep telling me that I can not adopt from them? I have 2 kids ages 5 and 8 yrs old and a lil 4 month old english bully girl that is spayed. I really want to save a doggie since I already bought my girl from a friend. Please if anyone can help let me know of a pound that isn't to far from where I live that will adopt out to someone with kids, please let me know. i am almost to the point of adopting out of state just to help a doggie get a great home and get me and my family another playmate. PLEASE HELP, majorly frustrated
go to petfinder.com and enter in your zip code and look at different breeds of small dogs in your area. Most of them will tell you if the dog can't be in a home with children. That's all I can think of. Good luck!
you are not the first to complain of this problem. it does seem self defeating what these pounds and shelters are doing. for every shelter that turns you down i am sure there is at least one or two that wont. it may not even be the children issues. they may be using that excuse for other reasons. petfinder is a good source to find pets all across the country. many , many shelters will transport dogs within a reasonable driving distance if you are a perfect match for that particular dog. also several breed specific groups have volunteers all across the country that volunteer their time to inspect your home and interview you to validate your claims of what and who you say you are. many find this intruding on their privacy but quite honestly i am all for it. good luck in your search.....your dog is out there. be patient.
Unfortunately, some shelters really go overboard on their adoption policies. They are trying to do it in the best interest of their dogs, because they see day in and day out what kinds of dogs are frequently brought into their shelters and why. And not all, but a lot of small breeds dogs do not do well with children, not because of their temperment personally, but because some children are not properly taught how to behave around small dogs and can easily injure them. I think this policy definately needs reviewing though, because I think it should be based on the personality of the dog and how well the kids are with the dog as opposed to a steriotype all together. It's sad too, because when this happens, people like yourself may be tempted to buy a mixed breed puppy from a backyard breeder to avoid the hassle. The only thing I can really suggest is pleading your case to your local humane society. If your children are older, like 8 or 9, ask about a volunteer program that your children can do to prove to them that they are responsible. My local humane society has a program where children take the dogs for walks for the shelter. If they are not willing to do something like that, and you really want to adopt from a shelter, like another poster said, get on petfinder and maybe check out dogs in surrounding states that would adopt to families with children that you can drive to. Some will even ship the dog to you at your expense. As a last resort, you could lie and not bring your kids when you adopt a puppy and don't tell them you have kids. I would only recommend this under parental discretion. Do you think you're children are mature enough to be around a very little dog without hurting it? Do they pull tails? Are they overly active? If you have confidence that your children would not hurt a small breed doggie, then try to adopt without disclosing that you have kids.
***Edited By: Huntersmom on 4/19/2005 5:55:44 PM*** Reason: grammar
Just to ease everybodies minds, I will not buy a mixed breed dog from a breeder when there are so many doggies in this world that really need a good home and out of the pounds. But I am getting extremely frustrated with the local pounds and such. They are willing to let me adopt a black lab or something that is just plain huge. I am trying to keep the doggie size to a minimum especially when i know my Cookie...my english bully, will not be staying at the 20 pounds that she currently weighs. I am have agreed to have them do a home visit and also was willing to have them have a behaviorist do a session with my kids and the dog I pick out just to adopt it, but they still kept saying NO, you have kids! I don't understand, the dog, or so they said, was supposed to be excellent with kids as it had been raised with kids. And she was supposed to have been great with other animals as there had been a cat, 3 other dogs, 2 hamsters, and some fish in the home as well. I don't want to give my money to some dumb idiot that wants to just play around and breed ignorantly and mix breeds. If I wanted another pure breed, then i would buy another dog, i am simply trying to find the perfect lil "mutt' LOL, one of my favorite terms, as I too am a mutt, mom = irish german, dad = polish, german, lol so i am not even a pure bred. I will check on pet finders and hopefully be finding my new best friend any day now, I hope. I just don't understand cus in this area we have quite a few kill shelters and I figured they would be more than happy to adopt a dog out rather than PTS, i really, really hate those words. Oh, BTW, I live in the middle of Illinois about an hour or so from Springfield. Thanks for your help everyone.
Branchie I live in central IL by Peoria. There are a few shelters in the area that said they would adopt a small dog to me with my 1 y.o. as long as we got them as a puppy. You can e mail me and I can tell you more. firstname.lastname@example.org
I understand where you are coming from. I wanted to adopt, but live in an apt, and wanted a smaller dog, or one suited to apartment life, and excercise outside with me. I was flat out refused at the local shelters.
My roomate eventually went out and bought a dog, before I really knew better. I was told to come back when I had moved..
It is a problem. I wanted to adopt an adorable pug puppy from the shelter before I had Shadow. So I fill out an application, they look it over and tell me I'm crazy. Why? I applied and I have a four year old brother. Well thats just great. What am I suppose to do, get rid of my brother? lol
Anyways, I'm just happy the shelter I volunteer at doesn't do that. I suggest petfinder.com
Branchie I LOVE YOU! lol, thank you for not buying a mxied breed dog from a breeder with all of the doggies in shelters!!!! *huggles*
***Edited By: ShadowDog on 4/19/2005 8:10:58 PM*** Reason: add
That is to bad. When I did dog rescue we didn't like to adopt small dogs with small children too. BUT, if the kids were kind and gentle and the dog for adoption liked kids we did make exceptions to the "rule". I sounds like you are a great family and really want to help a pound dog. Hope you will find a resuce that can bend the rules a bit! Rescues are worried that the kids might drop the dog etc. and it will end up with a broken leg or something. ( which did happen when I did resuce and they didn't tell us they had kids until after the dog got hurt) We ended up taking the dog back and paying $800 for the surgery. I think placing smaller dogs should be done on a case by case basis, and not just plain no.
Hi everyone, Thanks so much for all the wonderful advise. I really truely love this site for the response one can get on adopting a pound puppy. And just to let everyone know we have found our newest angel, or angels so to say lol. The is a rescue just over in Iowa that didn't care about the ages of my kids as long as they respected the dogs. Anyways, to make a long wonderful story short, the kids fell in love with a beautiful cocker mix in Burlington, IA, only catch is she was with puppies, so we not only adopted her but once she has her puppies the rescue has agreed to find homes for the puppies. So I guess you could say that not only did we find our newest family member but we have also become one of the few foster homes with children. The only thing is, the ad said she was a cocker mis, but once we went to look at her, the people there said she had papers, so lol I ended up not only getting a pound puppy but I got a purebred pound puppy. I am half afraid though once her 3 or 4 puppies get here, the kids aren't going to want to let them go. The rescue people aren't for certain if the puppies are pure or not, won't know til they are born, but we have had an xray done and it showed 3 puppies, but my vet said there is always a chance of one that's hiding. Her name is Baby and she is most precious chocolate color with white patches. I guess this will be a learning experince for me and the kids as i haven't raised puppies from the beginning, mine we always gotten once weaned. I am so thrilled though, she walked right up to the kids and they both sat on the floor with her and the next thing I knew Baby, Katie, Billy, and Cookie(my english bully) were all having themselves a grand time. The lady that we worked with looked at me and said " I think your dog has picked you, lol." I couldn't say no even though I was backoffish cus she was with pup. But hey, I guess I will be asking a lot of questions later on once we have them from those of you that have delt with this, lol cus I ain't got a clue. The rescue people said that I didn't just save 1 life but multiple lives with this one. Thanks for all the help and giving me the website to go to and everything. You guys are the reason I saved these angels. And the reason we now have expanded our family by not just 1 but opened the door for these pups and any future fosterings lol cus I also agreed that if this works out, I would do more for them as well. THANKYOU ALL SO VERY VERY MUCH FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS FROM CLARA, WILLIE, BILLY, KATIE, COOKIE, BABY, AND THE UNBORN ANGELS.
Hi everyone just a few quick questions. I am not sure of what to do, the vet says we still have about 2 more weeks til birthing of her babies but I am at a loss, I don't know when or how to tell or anything? I am not used to this kind of thing and I am not sure if I can be a new mommy to a litter of puppies. How can you tell when she goes in to labor? Is there any special things I need to have or do for the birthing? Does she need to be at the vet when this happens? What if something goes wrong during the process? I am scared to death! My baby has already found a permanent home in my heart and I don't want anything to happen bad to her, it is bad enough that someone else would let this happen to her as it is. She is getting so big, how do I tell if the puppies are to big for her to birth? Her belly looks like it is 3 or 4 times the size of the rest of her. PLEASE someone help me, I truly don't know what to do. I know what the vet has been saying but, lol he doesn't give exact info on everything, he just keeps telling me that she knows what to do and she will take care of it and if it seems like she's having trouble, then bring her in, lol easier said than done. I am just doing research before the time comes. lol I am not really sure if I can handle fostering either, I am almost afraid that I am going to be another one of the foster home failures, lol. so any advise is most apreciated, Thanks
ok, when it comes to the birth of your puppies you will need a whelping box(a bed for your dog to lay in, and stretch out fully on her side. It should be high enough that the puppies cannot jump out, but low enough so the mother does not have to jump, since she will be full of milk and it will be hard for her to jump. Her food ration should be increased, or free fed. She should NOT be allowed to jump.
For the delivery you should have: 1 dozen white washcloths-valuable for wiping up the box, massage the puppies, give them warmth, etc.
Pair of scissors, preferably blunt tip
some WAXED dental floss to tie off umbilical cords
A small cardboard box with heating pad to put puppies in while another is being born. put something under box and above heating pad to prevent a fire.
LARGE supply of paper towels and newspapers.
You will be constantly cleaning up during the whelping(unless you are REALLY lucky)
Prepare whelping box well in advance, well away from any other animals, and out of the way. Most puppies seem to come at night.
Several days before she has the pups she will begin rearranging the bedding in her box, tearing blankets, and papers and nosing them into corners of her box. This is the FIRST sign whelping will soon occur. Around day 60, begin taking her temperature morning and evening. Her normal temp should be around 101 degrees. When her temp. drops to about 98 degrees or so, whelping should happen in about 24 hours.
CONSTANT supervision is needed at this time, stay in the house with her. she may need you. If you work, plan on taking some vacation time.
Before actual whelping the females water will break. It can be actual water or the sack could even just come out. shortly after this, she will begin having contractions. these should NOT go on for a long time till giving birth. If contractions continue for more than an hour with no puppy you will need to go to the vet.
The birth of the first puppy can terrify the mother so be prepared to help her. As the puppy is born, the membrane must be cleaned from the puppy so it does not suffocate. clean the puppys head first! If the female does not immediately cut the umbilical cord and clean the membrane, you have to do it. clean the membrane, and tie a piece of dental floss close to the pups belly, and cut the cord on the side away from the puppy. At this time the mother may want to eat the afterbirth. If she wants to, let her eat them. After the cord is tied you need to be positive all the fluid is out of the lungs. It sounds cruel, but the best and safest way to do this is to pinch the puppy over the shoulders until it yelps, and expels the fluid. (much like human babies having their bottoms smacked to make them cry)
Be careful when you take and return puppies because the mother will be worried and may bite at the puppies, which can injure the pups.
make sure when contractions start, take any puppies born because the mother may lay on them.
Pups will come a few minutes to an hour at the most apart. If the motehr seems overly anxious or if there is more than an hour between pups call your vet. Puppies will often be in distress or appear dead(one of my doxies arrived like this and I was terrified)
when all pups are born and everything is cleaned up, make sure the pups and mother are in a bed with a blanket for traction, and warmth, but watch the mother so she does not lay on the pups.
Ok now how do I tell if she is close to delivery? She is going into the box and laying down but she has also been trying to take everything she can into the box, I guess to make herself more comfy, poor baby. Her belly has gotten huge and it looks like a giant bag hanging down under neither of her. Poor thing can't hadrly walk without her belly touching the floor. When I take her outside, I try to support her belly with my hands just so it doesn't get all scrapped up on the ground. Please help, I am scared something is going to go wrong with all of this. Should her belly be that big? Could someone have tried to mate her with a bigger dog just for kicks? What if the pups are to big for her to have? I don't think I have ever seen a pregnant dog get this huge. My goodness her belly is big enough to consume her whole body. I just want this to hurry up and get over lol so this way my poor baby can relax. This is a once only thing for me, lol I don't ever want to consider becoming a breeder. I will play the part of the rescue mom instead or foster mom but no breeding for me, I am scared to death. thanks everyone for advice, lol I got all the stuff ready and the vet said he will be on his cell so I can get a hold of him in an emergency, lol he is so good to Baby, he even gave her a nice toy and a new soft bed for all this. Thanks everyone
start taking her temperature twice a day. once in the morning and once at night. when it drops down to 98, 97 and stays there consitently for 24 hours she is a day or so from delivering. she may stop eating the day she is ready to deliver also. she will ne restless and seem very uncomfortable. thats about all i know.