I have a 5 month old English Springer Spaniel. Even before I got him I've thought of breeding him, and I've already gotten several offers for him to stud. He was going to be neutered this month but I've cancelled the appt. for now.
My question is, what are the con's of not neutering a male dog?
I also plan on getting a female Springer in a few months. If my male isn't neutered & she isn't spayed - question to the breeders - how do you keep them from mating?
the only con's to neutering is it emlinates you from showing and breeding. pro's are reduced aggression, no roaming, prevents health problems like protaste cancer. generally a calmer animal (not always true.) no unwanted litters the only to insure that mating will not occur is segragation while the female is in season. my why question is why do you want to breed him? I do not mean that to be sarcastic either i am intrested in your reasons. I have a pure breed also, a malinois, I to wanted to breed him, but I changed my mind after seeing some other malinois I decided did not have traits that i would like to pass on. he is a great pet. but mal's are not an average pet owners dog. even with his lack of drive to work (my main reason not to breed him). he still was a very hard dog to handle not something i felt comfortable passing on. he has had a great deal of effort training and socializing him and i am not to blind to see that he is not very wary of humans by nature. he is a very one person dog. like a mal should be. but he has chosen not to trust any one else. those are my reasons for neutering
***Edited By: gunny on 4/19/2005 10:59:44 PM*** Reason: d
Color "All the following combinations of colors and markings are equally acceptable:(1) Black or liver with white markings or predominantly white with black or liver markings; (2) Blue or liver roan; (3) Tricolor: black and white or liver and white with tan markings, usually found on eyebrows, cheeks, inside of ears and under the tail. Any white portion of the coat may be flecked with ticking. Off colors such as lemon, red or orange are not to place."
Well if your sights are set in breeding him. than go ahead. I personally take markings and breed standards with a grain of salt. Temperment and Health are most important to me. breed standards are mor like a general guide line. i think people run into problems when trying achieve "the perfect dog" to a human standard. the ambition of the dog is very important to me. i lovew gunny, but he is a lazy malinois.
I agree gunny - I'd rather a dog that is happy/healthy/well behaved/etc. than one that has perfect coloring/marking/etc.
The lemon Springers were very common when the breed first originated in the 1600's. Most owners that have lemon's don't want them for showing - they want them for temperment/coloring/personality/etc. There are alot of breeders looking to produce lemon & white Springers to get them recognized again. My dog's father is absolutely gorgeous and he is lemon & white.
Hi! Welcome to TP! I have never heard of a lemon and white springer. I tried to look at the pictures but nothing came up. It could be me, has anyone else had trouble seeing them? Anyway, the guys here give the best advice so I won't add to anything that they've said. When I saw your name it reminded me though of my Grandmother's cat. His name is Riley too and when she got him she said, "Well, that cat lives the life of Riley." I think she got this from an old tv show, but anyway, I just thought I would share. Have fun with your springer!
You've gotten some great advice already but I'm going to put my 2 cents in - Just so you know I breed Shetland Sheepdogs, and am not against new folks getting into breeding. Period. I do have a problem with uneducated people breeding. I also grew up with a Springer Spaniel.
While Temperament should always be of the utmost concern something a lot of folks never take into consideration when deciding to breed is health. And I don't mean "Is your dog healthy". I mean what do you know about the background of the dog. There are tests you can do to check for hip displaysia and such but there are genetic problems that there are no tests for. So it is your responsibility to do your research and to know more than what is going on with the potential sire. We know at least 5 generations back on each of our shelties. I'm not 100% familiar with the possible problems Springers can have, but you need to know about every single one that is a possiblity in order to rule it out. Every if you do your homework you still need to be prepared to encounter birth defects as some things will come up that are just flukes of nature.
The other thing that folks never tell new breeders is the time and cost involved with breeding. Roughly 400 hours of work goes into each one of my litters to insure that the mother and the puppies are given the best chance of coming out of the litter both healthy and happy, and that each puppy is well socialized and will be going to a good home. Springers and supposed to be good natural mothers, but they can still have complications and I personally would never deal with a breeder that wasn't hands on with every puppy delivery. A c-section delivery, if necessary is between $800-2000 depending on what part of the country you are in and the quality of your vet. What if a puppy has a defect that you weren't prepared for? Can you keep it and raise it? Will you euthanize it? You have to ask these questions BEFORE you decide to breed. Sit down and make a list of 10 things that could go wrong with the litter and I guarantee you that at least 2 things on the list will happen and 1 thing you didn't write down will happen as well. You are responsible for each and every life you bring into this world from the day they arrive until the day they pass away - at least you are if you intend to be responsible (which I am assuming you do).
Basically, you need to decide if YOU want to breed. You do have to look at the dog, the dogs wellfare, the puppies wellfare, etc... as well, but you also need to think long and hard about whether you can handle everything involved in breeding. Talk to several breeders that you aspire to be like and ask what goes into their breeding program both financially and time wise. Start doing your homework on the breed. Then make a decision. While many joys come with breeding it shouldn't be done "for fun" as the whole fun concepts flies out the window when you have a puppy born with a defect, or you lose the female due to complications. Be prepared for the pros and cons!
Abby - thank you for your two cents. Right now I'm jsut planning on studding Riley, but later down the line I'd like to breed myself. And I will definatly make that list. His breeder and I talk quite often and she's given me some tips about breeding and everything.
Ginger - my dog definatly has the Life of Riley lol. It is from an old show. :-) I'm not sure why the pics didn't work but heres a new link to them.
In addition to the comments Abby made about inexperienced breeding, another con to an intact male is increased chances of prostate cancer. I work in a vet clinic and the only dogs we see with enlarged prostates are unneutered.