He will be 2 in October, he is AKC registered, up to date on all shots and no health problems so far. I read on another site about OFC(?) Certification that he is in good health, so I need to get that done I guess by my vet but what's next?
When breeding is done RESPONSIBLY- there's no such thing as advertising a "stud service". The owners of the females search for dogs that would be good mates for their girls- and approach the male's owner about breeding. Or the *responsible* breeder you bought him from lines up a mating.
But without titles to prove his conformation to breed standards, you have absolutely nothing to offer strangers- and I suspect that he *ISN'T* from great lines- because if you had bought him from a good breeder, you wouldn't be here asking this.
So sorry- but you won't find a breeder with a girl worth breeding him to. Get him neutered and love him as your pet.
Wow we seem to be getting a lot of these how to stud ?s.
I agree with the first poster. If you haven't done it all then go ahead and do it. Thats thats the start.
The above post appeared after I posted mine. While I'm against byb and I mostly agree with what you said. I don't like to see people aimlessly breeding or putting studs up to make money. At the same time you can no more say he isn't from great line then you can say he is. You don't know the dog or his line, haven't seen his pedigree or know his breeder. I'm only saying this because a dog can come from a fully health tested & titled background from serious breeders and have great lines, it doens't mean the person who bred the dog is a responsible/good breeder it only means they have good dogs with good lines. A lot of breeders sell to just anyone, it amazes me the people who have dogs with fairly good lines or the breeders who have a health tested champion and stud that dog out to just any female, one who isn't health tested, never been shown, maybe even has some major faults and the owner knows nothing about breeding. But they still do it to collect their fee and the byb gets a CH sired litter to sell for more big bucks.
***Edited By: True_pits on 4/21/2005 12:22:42 PM*** Reason: add more
WOW, I didn't realize my question would ruffle feathers! I see listings for stud services all the time, are you trying to say none of those people who offer that should. How would you begin to find a mate if it's not listed. I resent the fact that you assume I didn't buy my dog from a good breeder and he does not have a good blood line. My question was where do I start, meaning I had no clue to contact my breeder.....
Pits, I feel completely confident in saying that there are VERY few breeders of English Bulldogs right now that are working with decent lines- and it would be a VERY rare occurance for one of their pups to end up in this position with a full AKC registration and a clueless owner.
Yes, there are "so-so" lines out there breeding anything to anything- and that's quite obvious in how POORLY the breed is doing. I'm not saying that good lines mean a dog is worthy of being bred- goodness knows that 90% of the puppies from the BEST lines are NOT fit to reproduce and should be removed from breeding programs.
But THIS breed? One of the most currently poorly breeds out there- one that requires c-sections on almost every litter- and is racking up $2000 pricetags for the crappiest specimins? I stand firm.
Bulldogs actually fail OFA, so thats one they don't do commonly.
Now, beyond that, most bitch owners look for studs. I go to people whoes lines I like and tell them what I'd like to do. They then have to approve my bitch and decide that she is what they want their name to be on once she produces pups.
There are more stud dogs then bitches.
Also, with bulldogs, you are looking at AI's, so you'd have to teach him how to have semin collected and have his fertility count checked regularly. Banish the thought of normal breeding from your mind, he could kill a bitch.
Also, with registration, after 5 litters he'd need his DNA certified with AKC.
But bitch owners tend to be quite picky.
***Edited By: Icyhound on 4/21/2005 5:08:44 PM*** Reason: Cuz I make mistakes.
I agree whole heartedly with everything that Longs said. If you pay a good amount for an E. Bulldog that's fine and dandy as there are a great deal of costs in bringing a litter into the world. If you paid between say 1200-1800 I would say you have a pet quality dog. This isn't to say the dog is not from good bloodlines or not from a good breeder. However the likelyhood is slim that the breeder is soley doing it for the betterment of the breed if you got said bulldog from, the newspaper, a petstore, someone at a flea market, your neighbor's sisters cousins husband. I digress. These people are doing this for one reason.....starts with an M and ryhmes with Honey.
HOWEVER if you paid say 3200 from a breeder that has excellent lines for a show quality dog, you wouldn't be here asking the question you are. Your breeder would be there from the begining to the end with this dog, helping you every step of the way. If your breeder intended for you to be breeding this dog, you may not have even paid anything for it. Or perhaps have half ownership in the dog. There are various ways in which these agreements are made.
Perhaps you are already up in arms about my post because you did pay 3200 or more for this dog. Unfortunately almost every E. Bulldog I have seen in Petstores has this price tag or similar. Do you have full documentation on this dogs lines? Have you even seen the parents? Are you in touch with the breeder regularly? Do you understand the cost associated with breeding an E. Bulldog? Does your breeder, if you know them, even know your intent? Did you sign a contract with the breeder saying you would get this dog fixed? Did you even have a contract? All of these questions are important.
I do not mean to sound rude, or condescending. Quite the opposite in fact. Many people think, "Well I paid alot of money for my little guy, he is cute and healthy, why shouldn't I get some money for this?" To this I say ignorance makes the world go round. Ask yourself why you want to "stud" him out. Is it for the money? Then run to the vet and get him fixed. Is it for the betterment of the breed? Then run to the vet and get him fixed. Is it because he is cute and your friends would love cheap E. Bulldog puppies? Then run to the vet and get him fixed.
Honestly leave it to the professionals who have been at breeding these dogs for 30+ years. And of these there are possibly only a handful in the US I would call professional. Love your bully for what he is, and when he is 12 years old and lying happily on the couch next to you having a snooze you can laugh about thinking he needed to go through all he would need to to become a stud.
*this is all said in the interest of the bulldog as a breed. Not because I hate people who want to breed. Nor do I think those that ask these questions are dumb. Just uninformed on the topic.
The spay neuter campain in america has progressed to the point that the adverge person, even if they have no intent to breed, is heavily discourged from keeping an intact dog.
The comments are made that accidents happen, people make mistakes, or your dog will have a horrid early death from one of a dozen reproductive problems which makes you a horrible person.
The sad thing is that tomany people aer irresponsible. Some dogs *need* to be altered, but I've never felt that to own a dog was to alter a dog. Many dog these days. I've managed unaltered dogs form my first dog at 7, who died at 16, and I run a multi dog household now of mixed sexes altered and unaltered. My altered dogs are all altered for reasons.
Some do it for convince.
But I degree. The automatic comment to alter is just that, an automated response and action of respobsibility. Not everyone can manage an unaltered animal, but some can.
Responsible people can have an unaltered animal. If I didn't have a female, I might have thought about it.. but I didn't want to deal with a potential bloody mess twice a year if she wasn't clean about herself. Cider is also slightly understandard, and since I can not trace her lines, I wouldn't ever want an oops if someone in my family needed to look after her for a weekend, etc and left her unattended.
My aunt had an un neutered male and never had an issue with him trying to procreate. I think nowadays there are so many irresponsible pet owners, that the easiest thing to say is 'please spay/neuter' so that they have no chance of creating pups due to bad owners.
I don't necessarily think that all pet quality animals should be spayed/neutered. However in this case the persons only question had to do with studding her dog. This is all my opinion but I don't feel that this person has the necessary info, experience or know how to be getting involved with this. There are already enough bad breeders of bulldogs, and plenty of bad breeders period. There is no reason to add another potentially bad (inexeperienced) breeder to the bunch.