my back is killing me!!!!! i just took Coach for a walk and he pulls so much. i stop each time he pulls and say "no pull", well, we stopped every 4 steps. my back is killing me... either i need a new leash or patience. can anyone buy me some patience??????
everything right now is "what do you do when he gets big?" i understand that, that's why i am asking the questions i ask. i don't want to make mistakes, but i also want to enjoy my dog. i have gotten great advice from responses to this topic, and i appreciate all of them. i hope to be a great doggy mom to a very big doggy, i just ask for some pointers.
take him to the pet store and have him fitted for a halti collar or a gentle leader. that will stop his pulling. he will hate it at first but given a small amount of time he will get used to it and will not mind it at all.
scout, about the halti collar, the trainers at petsmart today suggested that i should only use the training collar if when i call his name, he doesn't look at me. she told me to give it more time, and try and make it through "walking on a leash" in puppy kindergarten first.
i somewhat agree with your trainers. i hate to see any kind of corrective collars put on a puppy until they have had a chance to be taught the proper way of walking on a leash. once they have learned what it is they are supopsed to be doing and continue to not do what they are supposed to be doing is when i would move on to the corrective collars. i never like seeing a prong collar on a baby. the halti /gentle leader is a better way to start off with a pup IMO. if the halti proves ineffective then move on to a prong collar. i have a prong for my dog and it is very effective with her. the only thing i sort of disagree with is because you have a puppy who grows and gets stronger at a much faster rate then most. in a few months he is going to be the size and weight as most adult dogs and he's still a baby. so he kind of needs to learn quicker then most others because of the strength he is going to have very quickly.
one thing that may be useful to teach him is the watch me command. take a treat, something small and really really good, and place it on the tip of your nose. when he looks at you say the words watch me and then reward him. repeat a thousand times. then without the treat at your nose give him the command watch me and as soon as he looks at you reward him. you can use this command as you are walking down the street. just continually say watch me, good boy etc., etc., if his eyes are on you he cannot be ahead of you pulling you.
***Edited By: Scout1 on 5/7/2005 4:31:56 PM*** Reason: x
tosamom. just some more insight on a humane way to use corrective collars. if you do ever decide to use on some tips. put the collar on him when it is something fun is happening try to make a good connection to the collar. do this now. but do not use it, also put the collar on and take it off immediatly and after the fun. this will become a riual for the dog. the collar will mean fun. for the dogs sake save corrections for later and use postive reinforcement as much as possible right now. you can severly damage your bond with the dog by being to harsh. now when the dog is older i would say one year. this is when i really start expecting more, but not to much, tihs is a good time to introduce correction on a regular basis. do not expect perfection. still go easy on him. to issue a correction make light tugs on the leash. i usually use a long leash on the "normal collar" and about 6-8 inches off leash on the corrective collar. maybe longer to compenstae for size. make light pulls on the corrective collar. i use pich collars it is a lot more effective. the pulls no harder than pulling on a lamp string. make repeated pulls till you get the proper response. do not pull hard. this is damaging to the dogs neck and your relationship. this also will keep training fun and happy for the dog. the dog will be conditioned by the collar, the collar means fun. not pain. this way eventually the dog will relate training to fun and you can make a great game of it. Many of the other members here have seen me go from postive only training to almost tyranny over my dogs. i have found negative reinforcement does not have to make the dog cower and unhappy. what you are asking and talking about is exactly the qeutions i had when i was a pup trainer. I only armed with books made huge mistakes. I would even recommend attending some agility classes. just to watch. agility dogs have to be some of the happiest trained dogs on the planet. and that is not by mistake. the game is fun, the owners are fun. and that's what is all about. keep asking yourself, how can i communicate my idea to the dog in a humane and fun way. training for me used to be very formal and rigid, i learned the hard way. training is very informal and playful. keep training and keep researching. use what make sense and be creative. listen to the dogs body language. in training if it is not fun the dog is going to hate it, especially a pup. another thing if you see a well-behaved happy dog. ask how they did it. there are a million and training theories surely you will find one that works for you and the dog.
thanks gunny, i am starting to take pearls from some and follow my gut with other things. i also do not want to be too strict, but enforce rules early. i am trying to have more fun with him as well. i want him to be happy. i want to be happy as well! it's nice to know that i am not the only one to have gone through this. it's hard to "just relax" when i don't feel that i am doing the right thing. i know its a day to day process, and i am doing better & learning something each day. i REALLY appreciate your continued support and advice!
Hi Tosamom, I would really really like to know how you found your Tosa puppy? I am very interested in Tosas but have not been able to find a breeder anywhere near where I live in California. Please help
Hi Tosa, I just now read your posts and I feel so bad for you. My heart aches at how that breeder treated you. He should have acknowledged your feelings and that they are normal feelings when you get a puppy, at least they were for me. I felt the same way when I first had a puppy. I've had dogs all my life and even now with all my experience a puppy still overwhelms me. That is a very hard stage in life and thankfully it doesn't last forever. Had I been your breeder, I'm not a breeder but had I been, I would have given you a lot of support and helped you through all of your questions. I would have called you every day to make sure you were doing okay. I'm so glad you found this site because a lot of people have given you great advice and support.
I went through something similar to what Pyrmom went through. My baby boy was allergic to formula as well but I didn't know that and the doctors didn't know that and for three months he had non-stop diarrhea that started when he was just a month old after I quit breastfeeding. I thought I was going to go insane. He would even go in the middle of the night. My husband went out of town a lot for his job so I was alone with a baby that I worried about becoming dehydrated and the doctors were not supportive at all I guess because they see problems all the time with babies but I sure don't. My poor baby's bottom was so sore it was bleeding. I had to soak him in baking soda and water after every diaper change. I finally found a doctor that prescibed a certain type of formula that was 25 dollars a can but it was the only thing that helped. Before I found this formula I was at the emergency room with my son who was only three months old and up all night with diarrhea, I lost count after the 25th time of him going. They did tests on him and could find nothing wrong. They said he was very close to being dehydrated. My doctor reprimanded me for bringing him in, he said you should wait until you know for sure he is dehydrated. What kind of doctor would say that? Once they are dehydrated their veins can collapse and they may not be able to get the IV in!!! Needless to say that is what it took to find a new doctor that found a cure for our problem.
I just don't understand why people can't be kind and supportive to somebody in a time of need no matter how little it may appear to somebody it is still a major deal and how a person responds to you when you reach out for help makes all the difference in the world. My son is four now and the sweetest funniest boy and sometimes a handful but sucha joy. All the work you put into your puppy might not seem like its doing anything, you may not see the payoff until they are older but then you will be able to enjoy the benefits of your hard work.
Sorry this is so long. It would probably be a five minute conversation but ends up to be a five page story, lol! BTW, your puppy is beautiful! I love his markings and his color. I'll be praying for you. Just remember, this too shall pass.
Ln, thank you so much. i havent been on this site for a couple of days, so i apologize it took so long for me to comment. i appreciate you telling me your story. it was really tough. i look at him now and he has gotten so much bigger. he is starting to listen so well and truly is a great dog. i am looking forward to all there is to come with Coach. again, thank you!
hi tosamom ive had a tosa for 3 years hes very sick.if i can help you in anyway ide like to.and dont ever consider giving him back or putting him down ide take him.although ive never seena tosa with white on his face.he came from toshi tosas did you say???