Tosamom is the "bad guy" IMO. She did not do her homework and bought from the wrong place. Toshi kennels breeds for "true Tosa temperament", meaning high drive and high aggression dogs. Toshi kennels obviously didn't screen her properly, because she is totally unsuitable for guardianship of such a powerful breed. Even a lab would be too much for her! I am a small lady myself, weighing about 108lbs, and my puppy outweighs me by quite a bit. I never once doubted my ability to control such a dog and I've successfully socialized him so I can trust him around any dog, and also around cats, horses, small animals and children. It was a LOT of work, and I bought my pup from more "laid back" lines. I am infuriated to hear of a Tosa in such a haphazard position!! People like her contribute to the ruination of a breed through ignorance and mishandling. I live in Ontario where they just banned pit bulls, I don't think we need Tosas to be added to the list.
Tosamom2, Did you notice that you replied to a fairly old post? I'll have you know that my sister and her Tosa (tosamom) are doing fine now, no thanks to the breeder and all due to my sister's dedication and LOVE of her dog. She loves him more than anything in the world and the breeder was a jerk. He never mailed my sister her Tosa's papers and my sister recently contacted him to ask about them and his reply was," Oh, I didn't bother to mail them to you because I thought you were going to put the dog to sleep." Really caring breeder, right? Personally I think he only cared about the $1,500 my sister paid for him. Again, my sister and her Tosa are doing wonderfully, he is such a good companion and so well behaved. My sister continues to work with him every day and he is such a gentle giant that he plays with my 15 lb dog and they get along fine. Amazing what love and dedication can do, huh?
Well, I'm extremely happy to hear that things are turning out better than expected! And yes, I know the thread is old, but it is still active so I added my two cents worth. I too had contacted Toshi and it was decided by both parties that their lines would not be suitable for me. They select for dogs who would probably have some success in the fighting arena. What they did was an eye opener, but I don't think actions were totally without cause. Without having read each and every post, Tosamom sounds like a first time dog owner, and she was contacting the breeder with trivial, BASIC questions. No breeder has time for that. Most have day jobs, then they come home to a bunch of dogs and puppies who all want their attention. I also have a bulldog and it's a lot of work with just two! I don't know if Coach will have reached 2 years old yet, but Tosamom, please be warned, dogs change at around that age and usually become more confident. More confident and more dominant sometimes translates into fights with other like minded dogs. At 10 months old, my Tosa runs freely and plays with all sorts of other dogs, but I watch him closely for signs of change. There may very well come a day that he will no longer be a "dog park dog". Tosamom has to realize that there's a better than average chance of Coach getting into a fight. If that ever happens, will she be capable enough to get him out?
Tosamom2- you seem to think you know everything, and i find you very rude and arrogant. I had a very hard first week with having a new puppy, but i don't know why that seems to be so out of the ordinary. i went to the breeder for simple questions, and if he couldn't have answered them, then he could have recommended a book, not suggest that i put him down. maybe you should re-read all of the posts before you make snap judgements. my Coach listens to everything i say, and with one look i can have lay down and submit to me. i am not an idiot. i know what kind of dog i have. i know what kind of breed my dog is, and its temperment. all i needed was support from someone i knew owned those dogs. i have spent so much time training him and i haven't stopped. every day i make sure i am alpha in the house. he can play at dog parks, with my friends bullmastiff, with very small 15lb. dogs and with the neighborhood children. please consider all of the facts before you think you can go off on anyone. i did not need to explain any of this to you, i wanted to- so that maybe you won't make the same mistake with anyone else.
when is it too much water to give? how long do you keep him in a crate? how long can you play with him without causing future seperation anxiety issues?
These were some of your first words. Giant breed dogs are not suitable for first time/inexperienced dog owners. Period. Not only is the training and socialization extremely important, but also the feeding and physical upbringing. And when since is being honest and straightforward being rude? I don't know how I happened upon this site in the first place, but it irks me to know that a Tosa could fall in the hands of someone who doesn't know how much water to give a puppy.
I know it has been a long time since the last reply, but if tosamom is still there??? Just want to know how you are doing with coach. I have read all 7 pages of this forum, and wanted to know if everything was okay. I understand how you feel, and i also understand tosamom2. hope you don't get offended. When a, so-called, aggressive male dog gets to be about 2 years old, they do try to challenge you. I have no doubt you will be okay though. I have 2 pit bulls. My boyfriend and i did use the alpha roll-over thing, but we stopped. Once they know you are alpha, they might try to challenge you, but you have to be firm. You will know. One of my pitbulls, I have to be very firm with. The other, i say "shame on you" and he runs to me and throws his head between my legs and hides his face in shame, and he is the alpha male of the 2. You just never know sometimes. As long as you love them. You are the only one who knows his temperment. Nobody else. Hope you are doing well.
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