Hello there,

We are sending out messages in every way possible to let everyone know about the kind of puppies that are being sold at Anna's Pet Grooming in Norwalk, CA. Since January tons of puppies have died that have been purchased at this location. If you are looking for a poo mix, look elsewhere. There was a protest outside Anna's business on April 23, 2004 and many more to come. This business is practicicing unlawful and unhamane practices. Please research when looking for a puppy and don't think twice about going here. Tbere are too many of us who have been left with dead puppies. To my knowledge, since December of 2004 to present (April 2005) Anna's dogs suffer from a spectrum of diseases and viruses. To name a few: DISTEMPER, COCCIDIA, PARVOVIRUS, ROUNDWORMS, GIARDIA. Some of these are very dangerous to humans. Please support our cause and DO NOT BUY PUPPIES FROM ANNA'S PETS IN NORWALK.

Why three posts saying basically the same thing? Did you see the 9 page thread on this same subject? There seems to always be an active thread on this woman. She has even posted on here several times.

I was wondering why the board was being flooded...

yes, i am getting a little annoyed. this is getting out of hand and becoming a legal issue more than a pet issue. i do not mind bad breeders getting reveled. but we understand your point. this is a matter to be solved in a court room, city and the local humane society. with screen names like outtogeteven, it sounds more like a personal resentment and anger. i know we get heated here. but this has become an obesession. and also i am just tired of hearing about it.

Cricketmom- I think missingtoby was trying to use all of Anna's alias. She uses californiacockapoos, the cockapoo connection, and Annapet.com. So when any of those names are googled you would see the appropriate thread. That is how I found the original thread,

Gunny- we are trying... trust me. Getting annoyed...a little harsh..if you'd seen how Anna treated all of us on Saturday you would be beyond annoyed. I don't understand why some of you get all worked up about a thread you don't care about. If it doesn't interest you..move on. That's what I do.

When the top 4 threads on the first page are all about the same subject that is spamming the board as far as I am concerned. It has nothing to do with not caring. I feel bad for each and every one of you. I was scammed, too. As were several other members. A different time, different scammer. I came to TP just like some of you did, googling the breeder. Something I should have done long before being scammed. None of you have heard rude yet. On my very first post I was told it was all my fault, and I needed to stop whining. Because of the feed back we got about being scammed we starting e-mailing each other. There have been a lot of scam post on the forum, but none that I know of that have gotten the attention this one has. This is not the first thread about Anna.

Every thing that has been mentioned to try to stop Anna, we all did too. I hate to say this, but DO NOT fool yourselves into thinking that you are going to bring this woman to justice. I hope it happens, but it is highly unlikely that it will. We contacted every one we could think of, had puppies die just as some of you did. Rhonda did not get scammed, but she was very involved trying to help all of us. Be very careful of people telling you they are going to stop her Anna, and out her in jail.

I am not sure giving antibiotics is illegal, when anyone can get them. Good luck to all of you.

Cricketsmom - Yes, giving any kind of prescription medication to an animal that isn't yours is illegal. This is practicing Vet Medicine! However, if the seller or breeder gives a check to the purchaser of the pup as a "good faith" she'll get the dog better thing and it is accepted then the dog is actually hers again legally and then she can give it whatever she wants. In the twist of things, there are many humane issues here and several aspects to this particular case and because Anna has been in trouble with the law before and on probation and yet still continues to still practice vet medicine on these pups SHE IS IN VIOLATION! That she knows, and it is one of the big things that will put her in front of a Judge again!

Only God knows what will happen, but it is now in the hands of the authorities!

We all must do our part in pursuing Justice, so animals aren't used to be born and die for the ANNA CAUSE! When she first knew her place was infected this time or last time... or anytime.... she should have stopped bringing new pups in, knowing they would be exposed, but no... she thought she would take her chances and sell as many as she could and medicate the ones that got sick in hopes she would still get a good return, and that is the bottom line! Or their exposer was with all her little Mexican ladies that breed for her in Mexico? In any case, Anna knew and still knows she is wrong and practicing animal sarafice for her greedy gain. To me that is Murder of animals - don't any of you people that are complaining care? If you don't like seeing the posts then don't read them.

Now again, our requests are this to the public, we know there are hundreds of you out there that have been hurt by Anna in the same way - so if you were ever given Medication from Anna or any of her employees while the Puppy was still in your custody then please come forward and tell someone, perferrably Corporal Miller or Viasa at the Humane Society, and post your story here or email one of us. I can be reached at Just4pupJustice@aol.com I too didn't want to get a big deal thing going with a bunch of people but the more I heard over the months with all the Puppies dying, I know I need to get involved, and one authority put it... the more the evidence the better! Oh, and remember one other thing... If Anna gives you a check and tells you she will fix your puppy and you can come back and get it - You probably will NEVER SEE IT AGAIN! HER WAY OF KILLING OFF THE EVIDENCE.

Remember this isn't a hate Anna lets get even case, this is a HUMANE case!

***Edited By: Just4pupJustice on 4/25/2005 11:24:32 AM***
Reason: typos and wanted to add

CricketMom- I think there are too many of us to be silenced and pushed under the rug. And by the way, we email each other several times a day with updates and leads. But we have to keep the thread alive for new victims. Thank you for your understanding.

Justpupjustice, I would like to return the same favor to you. If you do not like my posts, pass over them. I would like to point out that the moderators should and try to read at least most of the posts in a thread. No matter how anyone tries to justify it, three almost identical threads back to back is spamming the board. The scammer I amd a lot of others got scammed by is still going strong. You can buy antibiotics for dogs all day long on the Internet without a prescription.

Actually, you can't.
You can buy antibiotics for fish, and livestock and use them off label on your dogs. But if it is labeled for use in dogs then it is prescription only.
It is a loophole in the law that breeders and drug companies and suppliers often take advantage of.

Actually you CAN. I have some in my refridgerator. The exact same thing that my vet gave to my puppy.

It's too bad there is no way to merge these all on to one thread? I guess it depends on what state you are in as far as antibiotics go. However like Cricketmom said, they are available on the net, Doctors Foster & Smith etc. Heck, you can even go into any fish store and buy them right off the shelf. In Anna's case it sounds like she is just trying to cut corners & doesn't want to listen to the law or anyone and that is a shame! However with that being said, she is doing nothing more than any other broker or miller would do. It is not uncommon at all for any of them to treat their own animals & have false vet records. Welcome to Puppy Victims 101!

Yes Cricketsmom & several others were also scammed by a worthless jerk that saw only $$ signs. He didn't care a thing about the puppies either. Yes this jerk is still in business. We are still trying......it just is taking a heck of a lot longer than we expected. It gets me riled up all over again everytime I think about it. Yes there were some very ugly remarks made back then that were completely uncalled for towards Cricketsmom & the others that were scammed.

Suggestion.....what about developing your own web site about Anna & what she has done. That will make the first Google search go there. It sounds like you all had a great day Saturday & I wish you the best of luck to you all.

Which one is that?
Not all drugs of course are prescription only, but most antibiotics that are label for dogs are.

What they sell at foster and smith and others is what I was talking about. They are labeled for fish or livestock and horses. Even though it is the same exact drug at the same exact dosage, it is not label for dogs. If it was, it would require a prescription.


***Edited By: lucina on 4/25/2005 4:03:42 PM***
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Actually where I live here in Ga. I can go to my feed store right now and buy 100cc of Penacillin, labeled for dogs, And you get it for a good price without a prescriptcion(sp). I can also get my shots there minus rabies shot there. I guess maybe it depends on where you live. But I can get all kinds of supplies at my feed store for my dogs. But I also live in the country.

Penicillin is worthless these days. It lost its effectiveness long time ago. This is why you can get it.
Can you get Gentamicin or even Amoxicillin that are labeled for dogs with out a prescription?
I doubt it. If you can, it is illegal.

The rules are set by the FDA. that is nationwide

Lucina, where are you getting your information? I have Amoxicillin and Clavamox {which is basically Amoxicillin with Potassium}in my refridgerator. Both are approved by the FDA, and are labeled "For use in cats and dogs." I did not order it from Foster and Smith, but I did order it online. Almost everything these scammers do is breaking the law, so why this be a major concern.

Here is the info straight from the source.

http://www.pfizerah.com/PAHimages/compliance_pdfs/US_EN_CT_compliance.pdf

"CAUTION: Federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the order of a licensed veterinarian."

If you got it with out prescription, then you got it illegally.

Where did you get it from anyway, i can use some of that.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not against treating your own dogs. I do it all the time. Even if I have to use a drug off label or get it from another countries to avoid prescription. What ever works. But I know better then to treat someone else's dogs.

Now, if you post the link to the lemon laws in California and Florida you will see that both Anna and Adam Hernandez are in total violation. My point being they are not following any of the laws, and they are getting away with it. So, why on earth would they care about sending you home with an antibiotic. Unless you have something in writing, you would have a hard time proving they gave it to you.

My breeder gave me antibiotics for my puppy when I brought her home, and I would do that too, if I knew and trusted the person to give as directed.

They got capon and other "untouchable" criminals guilty of a lot worse locked up for something as simple as taxes.

In my opinion, this is how they going to get her.
Dispensing meds with out a license is a federal offense. That is why it is important.
It is not just one person's word against her. She is apparently doing that routinely and that is what I think they’ll actually get her for. All the other violations are just the gravy and will strengthen the case, but the “practicing with out a license” is the main course.