We will be relocating in a couple months from CA to NC. We have a moving company taking all of our "stuff" and our vehicles will also be hauled - but we are flying. Do we need to notify the airlines that we have 3 dogs coming with us? Also, do they charge for the crates as if we were just shipping them, even though they are actually traveling with us?
Thanks for any help. The only time I ever did anything like this before was when I had only 1 dog and flew her to CA from MA (my brother got her off the plane for us and took care of her until we arrived 8 days later!).
When you make your airline reservations, you'll need to tell them how many dogs you will be flying. This is because there is a set limit on how many animals can be on each flight. When they are on the same flight as the owner(s), the charges are not the same as when they fly by themselves. Charges usually range from 75.00 to 200.00, depending on the airline. You'll also need a health certificate that is no older than 10 days from the date of the flight.
i have never been on the sending end of the pet. only the recieving. lol i would suggest contacting the airlines that you will be traveling on and they will help you with anything you need to know. you can also look up your airlines on-line and they have a "traveling with pets" section .you can get alot of information from that also.good luck in your travel and have a safe trip!!
I think that most airlines have a limit of two animals in the cabin at a time, you will have to check this out with the airline you are flying but you may have to take seperate flights. They do not charge you for a carrier, you must provide your own that fits the size restrictions to fit under the seat. I use a sherpa soft sided carrier, it is approved by most airlines but you can use a hard plastic crate if you want so long as it is small enough. I would reccomend a sherpa (or product like it), they are much easier to carry and it is more descrete so people will not fuss over your dog- most people never even know we have her with us.
I am not sure what the requirements are in the US for domestic flights but I know that to cross the canadian american border you need a health certificate from within the last 10 days as well as it is a good idea to bring their rabies certificates. In the many times I have flown with the dog I have been asked for her papers less then half the time.
As for a Fee, I believe that when we have gone it has been around $80 each way but I am sure that can vary.
As for the flight its self. The dog needs to stay in the carrier the whole time, if your dogs get motion sickness or really stressed you can give them childrens gravol. This is getting to be superlong, there are some other things that I usually bring on the flight with us and I can tell you if you want.
Thank you all. I plan on having my yorkie with me in the cabin but I was under the impression that my two shelties would have to be checked as "luggage" (LOL) in their crates, of course. I will be sure to check with the airlines. If they only allow 2, then I will "ship" one to my sister (already in NC) a day or two early since I don't want anyone left behind and I want to make it as stress free as possible for all of us.
I forgot to mention that I am petrified to fly and haven't been on a plane for 12 years. If I am more concentrated on how my pets are doing, maybe I won't have to grip the seat during the entire flight. I'm a big baby when it comes to "speedbumps" in the air. I panic! I can't wait for it to be over.
i didnt realize that you had to big dogs with you, there are some airlines that allow large dogs in the cabin but they are few and far between. I have never flown a dog in the baggage compartment but I know that it can be dangerous if not done correctly. I believe that some planes have a kind of middle compartment that is not where most of the bags go and it is not in the pasanger cabin but it is tempertature, air and pressure controlled. I would make absolutely sure that your dogs will be a place where the air and temperature is strictly monitored- especially if you are fying on a hot summer day.
this is a website with links to airlines and info on their rules
Airline/ Pet Etiquette is terrible in my opinion!!
Even though you inform the airline about how many pets and their size at the time you purchase your ticket....please call and triple check on that. They will indeed "bump" a pet. I've seen it happen.
One time I confirmed my pet's reservation with TWO different airline employees, one in person, and one over the phone. All was OK. The day we arrived to fly, there was NO reservation for any pet of any kind on my flight.
They screw up all the time, and it's a very stressful situation. To say the least.
Just so you know, here are a few of my experiences Flying the "friendly skies." Be forewarned!!
Please Please PLEASE be sure about airline conditions as well. Many airlines Advertise that their planes are "Heated and Cooled" accordingly to the weather. This is NOT TRUE. IF you have a small connecting flight of any kind, the smaller planes are many times NOT notified of your pet, nor are the small planes on some airlines conditioned what-so-ever. This was also the case with me.
I spent (and I'm not kidding) $200 EACH WAY for my puppy to fly home with me for Christmas to NY. At 70 lbs. he was considered, to be an "Extra Large" dog. This was United Airlines. I chose them, because they advertise and PRIDE themselves on how "Great" they are with animals. Their pet and cargo facilities are heated in the winter, and cooled in the summer. It was ZERO Degrees on the ground, I can only imagine what it was inflight how many thousands of miles in the air. When we arrived in NY, he was shaking so viciously, I was extremely alarmed. We got in the car and cranked the heat up, and I had him on my lap rubbing him and trying to warm him up. He was used to cold, and even zero degrees on the ground he had never reacted like this. Well, he shook uncontrollably for about an hour, then he fell asleep and stopped. I thought, how strange- he was so cold when the flight was heated. IT didn't make sense! (I did pay $200 for a heated flight.)
The next day, he was full of mucus, and developed a terrible cough. I took him straight away to the vet. He had full blown Pneumonia. That cost me a pretty penny with vet bills also. It took the poor lil guy nearly TWO weeks to start feeling better.
When we made our track back to MO, It was again another blizzard in Ny, and very cold. This time, 20 degrees. I double checked with the airline lady that the connecting flight was heated, because I was again paying $200 for heated flights. Then she informs me,"Oh- the large flight is heated, Not the small one." OMG- I FILPPED OUT. ONly because I had been assured and Re-assured that these flights were HEATED. Would I EVER in my Right mind put my pet in danger? GOD NO! How about the two weeks of vet bills and pneumonia that my dog suffered with because of YOUR Negligance? How about the $400 I'm out of to your airline that FALSELY ADVERTISES? It was ZERO degrees on the ground, what had my poor puppy been through??
Even still today I have nightmares about that trip. If I can help it, I will NEVER FLY again.
Here's another quick tip while I'm on a roll..... When you yourself board onto the plane. The stewardess is supposed to give you a ticket stub that ASSURES you that your pet has been boarded. Many times (Delta Airlines) this is NOT TRUE. I've nearly had heart attacks. I reminded the lady when I first got on the plane that I would be waiting conformation that my pet is on board. (Good advice) Then the inflight safety things happen, and the plane begins to taxi down the runway. (At this time, I'm NOT leaving my pet in some airport. I'll create SUCH a stir, they'll kick my butt off.)
So I begin to hammer on the call button. REPEATEDLY. You NEED TO HAVE conformation that your pet is on board. That is a Definite. They at LEAST owe you that sanity. So the stewardess comes over to my seat, and tells me, "Oh yea, your puppy is on board." I ask her, "well where is the official ticket stub from his crate then?" She says, "Oh, I just asked one of the guys, he got boarded a few minutes ago."
SO- What do you need to know before you fly with your pets? You need to know Everything. Lots. Good and Bad. Unfortunately most of mine is BAD. Please triple check everything. Reservations....cooling on all connecting flights.....Good luck.
***Edited By: weimommy on 4/27/2005 2:22:23 PM*** Reason: sp
Appearently no pets in the cabin to or from Hawaii. I can see the to because of Quarintine but not from. Boo! I guess the plus is we are only flying to CA, then driving across country. Not for a year or 2 though. Anyone have any ideas on how to get a bunny from one place to another? Our flight too? How do people ship other animals besides dogs and cats, thats all I ever see mentioned.
From my experience as a travel agent, there are only 3 animals allowed to fly in the cabin-dogs, cats and birds. Small animals such as rabbits, hamsters, guineau pigs, etc, must fly as cargo in a small kennel. ALL animals (including hamsters, believe it or not) require a health certificate before flying.
Thanks Catlover. I was wondering since I've never heard about other animals. Since we are in Hawaii I guess they all will have to fly cargo. I wish atleast the dog could be in the cabin with us :( We have one cat one dog and one bunny. Though the bunny is just about the same size as the dog. LOL
Are you absolutely certain you don't want to just take a cross-country driving trip? :)
Flying with dogs can be really hard. How well it goes depends on many factors.
1. What is the weather like? If it is too hot or too cold, don't do it. Just don't, you will have sick pets, or worse, dead ones. The belly of some planes is climate controlled when they are IN THE AIR, but NOT AT ALL when they are sitting on the ground. So if it is hot or cold your dog is freezing or roasting while the plane is sitting on the tarmack.
2. Are you flying during a major holiday? (I never fly or ship dogs during a major holiday; it is a time of massive screwups)
3. Adequate connection times (if you have connections that are too short, your dogs might miss their flight!)
4. Things over which you have no control, like how long have the people that are in charge of your dog been working (are they experienced or not?), or are they really busy, or distracted, or whatever. Were they up all night at a party the night before and are hung over today?
5. Fire extinguishers. If the fire alarm for the cargo area goes off, the fire extinguisher for that part of the plane is a Halon (spelling?) extinguisher. If it is discharged, your dogs die immediately, and NO, they don't check to see if there are dogs in the cargo bay before hitting the "Extinguish Fire" button.
My cousin is a pilot. She never flies her dogs. I figure that says a lot right there.
Some airlines have something called a "Celebrity Dog" program, wherein the dog can buy a ticket and sit in a seat. I have never used it, but hope to be able to if I need to fly again. Generally I'd just drive though.
I am hehe oops. Nikkispnce I've had way back in the day like 1996 when we first got AOL and were allowed only 10 letters LOL I always used it because it's easy to remember even though I no longer have that account. In the past 2 yrs I have used nikkimomof3. Now I screwed myself up LOL trying to remember which I use where. LOL Oh well.
Hello desert rose, We actually got our Bassett hound from a breader here on terrific pets. We had him flown out here to Ca and they can Ship them as freight. We actually picked him up at the Freight terminal in the San Diego Airport.
Unfortunatly I have no choice only way out of here is flying! Even interisland. I figured maybe island to island was by boat, nope gotta fly. And unfortuneatly it's always hot here :( But there is noway I would ever get rid of my pets so they gotta go with me :( Wish they would change that dang cabin rule out of Hawaii though, esp since they are changing the quarintine laws. Maybe it'll be different when I leave I hope!!!!!
Unfortunately, I don't have the option of driving. I have been out on medical leave with herniated discs as well as degenerative disc disease, which has limited my time in a vehicle to one hour or less. The flight itself is going to be tough since I will have to remain seated for most of it.
I, too, got my sheltie male from Texas (to CA) and he arrived at the airport in great health. He was only 9 weeks old at the time and I was very nervous about him flying - but he did well.
I appreciate all the advice. I will have to hope for the best that all goes well. I checked with the airline and you are allowed one small dog in the cabin (Rico, my yorkie) and can have one dog per person travel in the cargo section (there will be 3 of us flying so my 2 shelties should be able to travel with us). It costs $100 each way for each pet.
I just flew with a dog a couple months ago. You must call your reservation (not internet) You must find out the type of plane that flies out of your airport and then ask them for the phone number of the pet department. The dog must be in a crate. If the crate is small enough to fit under the set in front of you he can fly in the cabin with you, if not then he goes in the cargo section of the plane. The ground temperature in all places the plane touches down must be above 40 deg. and you need a certificate of health from a vet that the dog is ok to fly. This health certificate must be dated within 10 days of the flight. Check with the airlines the crate must be a varikennel type and must be large enough for the dog to stand up and turn around in but not too large as to allow them to stand the entire flight.
If you can use NORTHWEST. the rules are: 1. heatlh certificate no older than 10 days and must include proof of rabies if over 3 months.
2. snub nose dogs can NOT be flown if FORECASTED TEMP at ANY POINT is above 75. (includes a layover stop- this is FEDERAL GIUDELINES any otehr dog the FORECASTED TEMP can NOT be over 85 it does not have to get that temp- just be forecasted and they can not fly. all airlines use teh WEATHER CHANNEL's website for the forecast- pick your cities and look under 36 hour detail.
3. at any temp under 50 teh dog has tohave a certificate of acclaimation to be flown and no dog will be flown if forecasted temp is below 10 degree's (FEDERAL GUIDLINES)
price is based on the SIZE of the KENNELL not the weight of the dog. 2 can be flown together IF they are BOTH under 20 lbs. Also some planes can only carry 1 "checked" dog at a time. plus you have to arrive an extra hour early to make sure ALL paper work is in order.
for any other ??? go to northwestcargo.com or you can call 1-800-692-2746
i have used them numerous tiimes to ship a pup ouut and everyone has comented on how good their pups were treated. but they are sticklers for rules. just had to refund money back to a lady in AZ because it was FORECASTED to be over 75 and they would NOT put the dog on the plane.