I just bought my first puppy in March from a breeder in Illinois. I had been thinking about getting a puppy for a long time and decided to get a yorkie. When I went to the breeder's house to look at the yorkies she had, everything looked good.
After picking the cute little guy that I have now, the breeder did something strange. She tried to give me papers for a silky terrier. She said that she was selling yorkies, silkies, and shih tzus, and that she accidentally gave somebody who bought her last silky the papers for a yorkie. She asked if I minded if she just gave me silky papers. I said I would mind and that I wanted his papers that said his breed, Yorkshire Terrier. So she gave me them and that was it, or so I thought.
I took him to the vet today and the vet told me that he doesn't think my puppy is a yorkie. He thinks he's a silky and the vet tech said she thinks he looks like a mixed breed. My puppy's only 4 months old and he weighs eight pounds now (he was 9 weeks old when I got him and he weighed 3 1/2 lbs). The vet said his fur feels like a silky's and that he's too big to be a yorkie.
I don't know what to do now. I love him and I'm not going to get rid of him no matter what, I just want to know what breed he is and if I got taken by the breeder. Please take a minute to look at his pictures and let me know if you think he looks more like a yorkie or a silky. They are posted at http://
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It's possible that your dog is just an oversized yorkie. Yorkies are supposed to weigh under 7 lbs according to the breed standard, but they do come bigger than that. It doesn't mean the dog isn't a purebred, but it does mean that the dog woudln't be able to be shown in the conformation ring.
Silky terriers are longer in the body than a yorkie and larger in size. If your dog seems to have a disproportionately long body compared to it's legs, it's possible you have a silky terrier and not a yorkie.
I'm not sure who your dog is registered with, but if I were you I'd take the time to call up the registry and report the breeder as trying to pass fradulent dog papers, or papers for the wrong breed. Personally if a breeder ever even hinted at giving me papers for the wrong breed I would not have gotten a dog from the breeder.
your puppy is absolutely adorable !! sorry i cant be of much help about which breed he is. yorkies and silkies look identical to me. the "breeder" you got your puppy from sounds like scum and i would definitely report her to what ever registry she gave you papers for. i am curious as to what that registry is.........if it is AKC or one of the lesser quality registries out there.
I am not an expert on Yorkies, and I do know they come in different colors, shapes and sizes, but if I had to guess I would say you were taken advantage of and that your baby is not a Yorkie. I have a 7 month old female that is 3 pounds 1 oz. It is not just the size that is the problem, the body color and complete face shape of the pup looks nothing like most Yorkies I have seen. I would get back with the breeder lady and tell her that you believed you were purchasing a YORKSHIRE TERRIER, not a silkie and tell her you are getting your pup DNA tested with AKC. Her male (which I am assuming has sired over 3 litters in 1 year or 7 litters lifetime) should have his DNA filed with AKC. If something fishy is up this should throw her in to a tizzy. AKC will come in to her home or kennel and check her out really well and make sure she has her paperwook/correct dog to papers is straight, if not they may pull her dogs papers until she gets things handled. I know that silkies are generally less money than yorkies, maybe she will give you the difference for her mistake. Or at least not make the same mistake with others.
I raise silkies and that's not what mine look like at that age-the younger age pretty close-but not the older age. Even though there are different times that a silkies ears will come up, they don't have much spring too them. The feet should be catlike and they do have longer legs generally than a yorkie too. I just don't know what to say, other than I agree with the schnauzer comment-which seems odd if she doesn't have that breed-but maybe it's the haircut too. I just don't think that it's a yorkie. BUT-He's sure adorable!
Your dog looks almost exactly like my mini schnauzer Champ. Same coloring, same face, and both my schnauzers are smaller than the average schnauzer. He doesn't look like a Yorkie to me. But whatever he is, he's a cutie :)
I raise yorkies and the young picture looks close. The older ones, no. 3lbs at 9 wks is pretty big for a yorkie but not unheard of. What club is the dog registered with? Please call the club and tell them what this breeder did and said to you concerning the papers! If it is AKC they will DNA her dogs and find out whats going on. People can make mistakes sending the wrong papers with the wrong pup BUT then it needs to be corrected. I can't believe she asked you if it was ok to give you the Silky papers for your Yorkie pup! Did she end up giving you Yorkie papers? Your pup is cute but would not fall into the AKC Standard for a yorkie as far as weight and looks. This breeder needs to get her poop in a group so to speak and be reported to her club for trying to give you the wrong papers ( unless you did buy a silky) . If that is the case she needs to come clean with you and tell you the truth. I'm glad you love him and he looks very happy!
When I looked at the pictures the first thing that popped into my head was Schnauzer. I don't breed Yorkies, but have two, and have seen my share believe me. That puppy looks nothing like a Yorkie TO ME. But you gotta love him anyway, right?
I have no clue. He's cute. To me, the 12 wk dog doesnt even look like the 14/15 week dog at all. I'd have never known they were the same. heh. I know that's not at all your question, but Im just saying that's all I noticed. I couldn't begin to guess at breed. Good luck, and enjoy him!
Gunner is registered with the Continental Kennel Club. Before getting him, the family pets we've had have all been muts from the pound and then, most recently, a schnoodle that my mom has. So this is the first guy that's ever required papers.
After getting him I was looking up the differences between the kennel clubs (I didn't even know that there was anything besides AKC) and that's when I found out that the Cont.KC is not really "up to par" with the AKC. I did, however, make sure I got papers for a Yorkie, since that is supposedly what she sold me.
I had thought that he looked like a schnauzer, too, because of his snout (his face looks almost identical to my mom's schnoodle, which is what first concerned me that he wasn't a yorkie).
Since he's not registered with the AKC, do any of you know if I can still get him DNA tested? The reason he looks so different from the 9/12 wk. photos is because he had black fur in those (but silver roots) and I wanted to keep the puppy cut on him, so after his first haircut (in his 14 wk. photo) he's all silver, and the groomer cut it too short. I didn't even recognize him when I picked him up (maybe the groomer swapped him!! haha jk).
Thanks for all of your help on this. I'm going to contact the kennel club about the breeder. I'm also going to hold off on getting his haircut for a while (I read online that a major difference between yorkies and silkies is that yorkies hair on the top of their heads will continue to grow and silkies head hair will stop growing at a certain point...is that true?)
There is a genetics testing company that I use for some of my testing. The do offer parentage testing, I use them for vWD testing. Their website is www.vetgen.com and they are great if you'd like help over the phone. I know the vWD tests are simple to administer. I'm not sure of the CKC's acceptance policies, that's why I always encourage people if they aren't sure to actually call, but if you find that your dog is indeed not what you were told-TURN THEM IN! In some states the lemon law may apply here and you may be entitled to a full refund with also keeping your puppy. Best wishes!
I think you should take the advice of the poster who said to go back to the breeder and bring up DNA testing, then do it. If you got ripped off, do something about it. The breeder needs to be held accountable.
The breeder of my oldest Sibe wrote to me and asked if she had sent the wrong papers to me. I replied with the Sire and Dams names, who were indeed Sibes and the parents they were supposed to be. So I can see maybe getting them mixed up (a Sibe and an Irish Setter look nothing alike even in puppyhood) when several litters are going to new homes at the same time. My papers were mailed and I can just picture a table filled with envelopes to go out and how easy it would be to put one set of papers in the wrong envelope. Having said that, it sounds like you were there in person so the woman should have been able to take the time to open the application and see who the parents are. She should know her own animals and what breed thery are. I think the Schnauzer look is more from the haircut, but I'm not that familiar with silkies or yorkies. Check with the registry and report her. Please! There are too many unscrupulous (sp?) people breeding animals and giving out false pedigree information. Don't let another get away with it.
I had two Yorkies - one died last month. The elder of the two is still living and is 11 years old. I always thought she was a Yorkie (she is beautiful, by the way), but she was 3.5 lbs at 3 months and is now 15 pounds. I had adopted the one who recently passed, so I don't have papers for her. But, she was only 7.5 lbs and was gray with blonde hair. Her hair was curly. The bigger one has the blue and gold coloring and has very silky hair. They were different as night and day. Everyone tells me that the 15 lb one is huge, but it's only because they kept comparing her to the little one. They both have long bodies, so that shoots the theory between the two being a Yorkie and Silky, since their bodies were both long. Last week, I spoke with a lady who told me she had a Silky, too. I said miine was not a Silky, but a Yorkie. She told me that, no, I have a Silky because she weighs 15 lbs and is a much larger dog than the standard Yorkie. She also told me that her Silky is even bigger than my Silky (Yorkie?). I went on the web and found pictures of Yorkies and Silkys. I can definitely tell now that one was a standard Yorkie and that the remaining one is definitely a Silky. But, they are beatiful, no matter what. The papers for the bigger one say that she is a Yorkie and that is fine with me. I love her no matter what she is.