i'm for it. i've never been able to train a cat to use the appropriate places to scratch. part of it could be because i work and am not there all the time. but, the cats i have now i had a tendonectomy done instead. they still have their claws and toes, but can't flex their claws. it's worked well. i still have to trim their claws, because they are there and grow. that is a good point longdogs about the ear and tail cropping. see, i'm against that. so i just don't make any sense.
Yes, you would have to be a total IDIOT to put a declawed cat outside. I don't like cropping and docking either so I do make sense. ha...Dad won't get this cat declawed, it's not worth the money. She hasn't attempted to destroy anything either. If we went somewhere and she'd be alone, We'd keep her in the "cat room" where there is nothing expensive to destroy.
I am someone who sees boht sides of it. For some people who are unable to train their cats to claw appropriate areas of the house, who have basically the choice of declawing or getting rid of the cat (when it'd probably go to a home where it'd be declawed too)..
I have yet to encounter personally (doesn't mean they aren't out there, but iHaven't met any) that doesn't claw exactly where it wants to if it can get away with it.. and most cats can get away with at least getting a few claws/scratches in before being forced to stop. One claw/scratch is enough to make a scent marker, and give more incentive to do it again. The edge of the couch is a very popular place. I have been able to get cats to scratch posts as well, but they always go back to the edge of the couch.
I place value on my pets, but I also place value on my belongings as well. We all do, that's another reason why we use crates with dogs and get mad when they mark in the house.
However I do admit to finding it humorous that people are pro declawing but anti cropping/docking.. I guess however that people aren't threatening to rehome their dog if itd oesn't stop flopping those ears or wagging that tail.
We have 3 cats, none of which are declawed. up until this september they were indoor/outdoor cats, and now their just indoors. I have seen a declawing being done, and it was discusting (sp?) the sound that was made....ew! and not to mention how much the kitten cried after he woke up. i personally wouldn't declaw my cats unless i absolutly had to. if they were destroying everything then i possibly would, but i wouldn't feel comfortable, just in case. because if they ever get outside i'd like for them to have their claws to defend themselves. but a cat like my little brothers friend....heck i'd have taken him in a while ago. this cat is nuts....completely indoors.....he scratches up their leather furniature, and claws them to pieces too. i guess it's more of just a personal opinion, and whether or not you feel comfortable with it.......me i'm kinda in the middle leaning more towards no!
"The surgery does sound awful and inhumane but what surgery doesn't? "
I think there is a big difference between mutalation and doing a surgery to save a life or prevent the animal from creating hundreds of more animals that will end up in shelters. I've had cats in my house all my life and none of them were declawed. We never had any problems with them destroying furniture. My dog chews on things, but I'm not going to remove her teeth...I guess I don't think about declawing as JUST removing their claws, because its not. Like Icy said it's removing part of their toes. And that's simply just wrong.
***Edited By: gingerspice on 5/17/2005 11:38:05 AM*** Reason: edit
I work with a person from Portugal, and she said that in most European countries, it is illegal to have a cat declawed. I am totally against it. If you don't want your $3000 sofa scratched, I feel you have 2 options-either don't buy a $3000 sofa, or don't get a cat! BTW, I have 4 cats in the house, none of which have been declawed. I'm not going to say that they never scratch anything inappropriate, but it is rare that they do.
My cat I was refering to the owners never brought her in. I snuck her in my house every night b/c I felt bad. I'm talking 0 degrees outside she was out so they were just bad owners all around. THey never had food out for her, I was feeding her. She was basically my cat anyway before she was legally my cat.
"However I do admit to finding it humorous that people are pro declawing but anti cropping/docking.. I guess however that people aren't threatening to rehome their dog if itd oesn't stop flopping those ears or wagging that tail."
Okay, I haven't read the whole thread yet, but wanted to put in my two cents. I have three cats. One is declawed (front paws only) and he is the friendliest and most loving of the three. However, we bought him from someone who was trying to create a new cat breed. The other two were basically rescues. Sailors being reassigned and not able to take the cats with them. We had a neighbor who had their cat declawed (front and back) and the cat did become mean. He wouldn't let anyone touch him and because he couldn't fight with his back claws he would bite. In my area there aren't many if any reputable vets that will do back claws. Back claws are the defense mechanism for cats. I'm sure you've seen them on their backs kicking for all they're worth. The front claws are used mostly for climbing, but my boy can scale a four to five story cat post in nothing flat. I've used the water bottle on the other two and most of the time they're pretty good. They would have been declawed too, if I'd had them when they were neutered.
I've also had a Dobe whose ears and tail were done. The tail was done at two days old, so I didn't have much say in it. I had the ears done by an excellent vet in Yorba Linda, CA. I don't know if he still practices but he did a wonderful job and Athena (the puppy) never seemed to notice. He didn't use the traditional rack for the ears. He also removed scar tissue from the tail that wasn't done so well.
***Edited By: wolf256wolf on 5/17/2005 4:01:06 PM*** Reason: ++