today i see the over extensive use of choke chains be it half chokes or normal chokes
especially large breeds like grat danes, mastiffs , Neopolitan Mastiffs have been victims of choke for their entire lives chokes are also used on small dogs too havin a breed n choke n tying it up in a choke is inhumane they feel suffocated n even have a respiratory arrest if they are tied n kept unattended in a choke is it correct upon us to exercise authority in such brutal means? cant proper trainig replace chokes? how rite does one feel to control a neo by chokin him even in his walk? reply requested. (i know chokes have a pirpose but that prpose can be overcome by better means)
A choke chain is simply a training tool. Like all canine training tools, it works better on some dogs than on others. When used correctly, the choke chain is not harmful or cruel. (Even a leash can be turned into a weapon of torture).
Sammi is the first dog I've had to use a choke on. She was three when I adopted her, and acted like she had never had a leash or collar on. The trainer advised it as a last resort. After one year, she is now totally under control, and I stopped used the choke after 3 months. If properly used with restraint, I feel it is a viable option. But I have strong feelings against the use of a prong or electric collar. I've been zapped a few times, and didn't like the feeling at all.
Martingales are not much diffrent from buckle collars. Some of us have breeds with fine slender heads slimmer then their necks. For us chokers or martingales are the safest method to walk our dogs who can slide out of buckle collars.
Any type of collar or lead can be abused. Choke chains are not inhumane. It is the fult of the user who is ignorant of use if there is a problem with it.
Actually a regular collar is inhumane compared to a choke collar because the choke collar tightens all around the neck and evens out the pressure. I regular collar puts full pressure on the front of the neck increasing the risk of damage to the esophagus.
Prong collars actually cause far less physical damage than a choke chain, mostly because many people don't use choke chains correctly. They put them on wrong, or let the dog pull against the chain constantly, which puts crushing pressure on the esophagus. No training collar needs to be left on a dog when it is not being trained.
Halti's and gentle leaders are good too, but again they are a training tool just like the choke chains, prong collars and the like. When used correctly choke chains are not inhumane. Even prong collars are good training tools when used properly. Like someone said, it just depends on the dog as to what type they'll respond to.
I read an article a while ago that was said to use a Prong Collar rather than a Choke collar because there was more instances of death and injury to dogs when the Choke collar was used. But anyway, to use it or not is an individual choice and I support it! When I have more space- I'm going to get a Neapolitan Mastiff and being I only weigh a little over 100 lbs its really a safety issue, and I alerady decided I would use a prong collar. I know its viewed by some as inhumane but I feel it's much better than having the dog run into the street and get hit by a car or pull away and eat another person's cat or dog. The 70lb pitbull I live with can and HAS dragged me before- Ugh, that sucks- can't even imagine with a 160lb dog! Would using a harness be as good a training tool??
***Edited By: Teloulou420 on 6/7/2005 3:48:45 PM*** Reason: Another thought
before we built the fence in the back of the house last year we had to walk our dogs or walk them to a pen. We had the schnauzers ( as well as others) and usually walked them and used the retractable leaches and they were good to do potty breaks...but one we started obedience it was another story..those little mules would pull till the cows came home..the trainer came up to us mid lession and suggested prong collrs for both of them...they got a few good corrections and they were fixed from then on...even now when they occassionally go for walks on leach...they still react really good to directions...prongs tought them quicker that pulling was not good..and a good quick lession is always best in my book...not cruel
hi i think a choke need not be used to train dogs my beleif is love n praise can mould dogs
my neo has never had a choke on n i never used one to train him on he is very well behaved n obedient ok if u want to train ur dogs its fine but wot is this mentality which ties a neo when he is on a choke yuck
i use a prong collar on Nala, because without it she would drag me into the streets. I am only 14 years old so i am not that strong, but i manage to be on walks bymyself. With the prong collar on Nala hardly pulls so i have to hardly correct her. She normally wears a nylon collar when she is at home or she is without a collar.
***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 6/8/2005 11:43:01 AM*** Reason: wrong collar
Chokers are not mean. It is how someone uses and applys them.
They are the only collar I use. Buckle collars are useless for anything but holding tags. All of my dogs walk on loose leashes because I train my dogs to walk and behave. I demand the correct behavior and I receive it.
I do not need to torture them or choke them out to do it.
The choke chain is a tool and is ment to be used as a tool.
Not all dogs want to pull and drag you. Dogs can be taught proper leash manners quite easily.
i don't know about ur dog but my dog is great on the lead once we walik about 2 metres but some don't and i feel that they sould not b choked so much in order 2 walk properly.
i trained my 1 year old puppy 2 walk properly on a normal buckle collar in 3 days and we were able 2 walk her a bit when she was 9 weeks old. i didn't need a choke collar and i would never dream of putting 1 on my dog but u obviously do do and u should have ur oppinion 2 and thats my view.