I just got a call from a couple that bought a yorkie pup from me ( Pixie) and she didn't come out of the anesthesia after the spay surgery. the vet told them that they didn't need that presurgery blood test to see if all was ok to do surgery. They wanted the test done anyway but the vet didn't do it. They are over the top HEARTBROKEN!! ( as I'm sure we all would be) The vet asked them how much $$ they wanted as they screwed up... I talked to my vet about it and they said it was rare but if it was going to happen it seems that it happens to yorkies. They just lost one that came in for a teeth cleaning and that dog was 3 years. They now stay with all yorkies until they fully wake up and don't just put them in a cage to wake up on their own. Just for FYI to people that own yorkies. I would for sure do the pre-surgery blood test ( aprox $35 - $60 ) and have the vet use gas only and not the injectable meds. ( I have heard now that gas only is the best ) anyones else hear that? AND to have the staff stay with the pup until it wakes up completely so if it stops breathing they can take action right away. I am just sick about the loss of Pixie and still can't believe it's true. I know things can just happen even with a healthy dog. I was going to take one of my females that I kept back to have some baby teeth pulled but now I'm so scared to even do that. I asked my vet if they had like a pill ( valium) or something that would just make them not care whats going on, instead of knocking them out completely. They didn't seem to think that would work. Any thoughts? I guess I don't know what to say, I have a spay and neuter contract, but now I'm scared. I have only been breeding for 2 yrs but have not had any problems like this before. Pixie was about 4-5 lbs so she wasn't a tiny yorkie and her parents are neg. for liver problems and she seemed totally healthy when they brought her in. Anyway I 'm going to add some warnings about anesthesia on my " care page" for new people that get Yorkies from me. Sorry for the long post and any ideas other than what I have posted would be great! thanks. Our poor Pixie rest in peace....
Awe, Jean that terrible. I know someone online that had the same thing happen to her Maltese. I think its safe to say all toy breeds need that extra care with the anestia(sp) I have heard people say to seek out a vet that is into the small breeds, that way they will know better what to do. So sorry about the Pixie.
I'm sorry- that must be a horrible thing for someone to go through. But please, please don't be frightened! Yes- anesthesia is a VERY serious thing- and deaths do occur from it. That's why the bloodtest was so important. What a jerk of a vet- telling them NO to a test they ASKED FOR? :(
Having a vet we can trust is SO important- and it's very involving trying to find them. Even the best vets make mistakes- but denying a bloodtest that very likely- would have saved this puppy's life- is just disgusting.
It's not the act of spaying that took their puppy- it was the vet's incompetence. I certainly hope that they pursue action against him with the licensing board.
I'm a firm believer in gas (specifically isoflourane) being the anesthesia of choice for all surgeries, as well as in pre-anesthetic testing being done on all breeds. I can't believe the vet didn't do it after they told him to, I would have ben infuriated.
Dang Jeanie that is just awful. I certainly feel the vet is more responsible than the fact it is a Yorkie and the anesthesia. That doesn't even make sense why they didn't do the testing. Usually it is just the opposite. They add on as much as they can get away with. My vet is pretty good about not doing that, but she would not spay Cricket without doing the test. I have to take Jasmine in soon, and it does make you stop and think. I really feel bad for the Yorkie owner, but you have a real good vet, don't you? Sorry this happened, but good to hear from you.
Oh my goodness, how terrible. My heart goes out to Pixie's family. My yorkie-poo is scheduled for a nuetering on 6/17 - now I'm scared.
Gosh, the last month I've been terrified about things surrounding my Yorkie-poo. First I learn the place I bought him from sells sick pups & lies about it (by sick I mean parvo cases and distemper) and now the worry of this.
I took Harley to the vet last week and I was reassured (still I had tests done which were all neg) he wouldn't suffer from any of the effects of the sellers sick envirnoment (the parvo & distemper) as he is now nearly 6 months old and has had all his shots and tests are ok.
I can't take back the fact I brought some of this worry on myself (by buying from a puppy mill and pretty much knowing it at the time, guilty and stupid!) but this is something I NEVER thought of.
Maybe I'm gonna wait a little while before I take him for his neuter.
Layla was a year old when she was spayed, she weighs l0 pounds and she had a heck of a time waking up. Scared the daylights out of me. Four hours after the surgery she was still out of it and she was groggy until the next day and trembling. The vet said she may have had too much morphine. I dont know, but Im scared to death to have a dental on her now, since the last time.
I am so sorry for your loss. I guess you can take some comfort in knowing she died peacefuly.
Unlike what happened to my GSD, Barli. She died 2 days post-op, from internal bleeding from an incompetent vet. I took her back several times, saying something was wrong. We had just moved to this small town in NE, we had not heard all the horror stories from other people.
I complained to the state vet board, after a nearly 2 year wait, I got a letter saying he had not met the"standard of care". His punishment, taking a couple of remedial classes! This creep never even said he was sorry. I want to take him to small claims court.
I'm shocked that a vet would refuse the test! I usually see them press it on everyone. One of my vets wont put a dog under unless its had it and another one makes you sign a paper. I'd think he'd be happy for the extra monay and security.
I am so sorry for your loss. I was very nervous when I took Troy for his neutering appt. the vet wanted me to leave him overnight but I refused to leave him. I would been worried sick all night by not having him with me. I know, that they do it as a precaution but I figured he was going to stay by himself at the clinic at night so it was better for him to be with me so I could take care of him and keep an eye on him.
I do not want to be mean to vets but sometimes I question their judgment.
Hi guys, this is the second yorkie they got from me. They are the PERFECT animal owners. Julie took off 1 wk just to stay with Pixie while she recovered from her spay. These dogs are their children. They are a young couple and spend all of their time with their dogs. He called just sobbing on the way to pick up his wife at work after he found out. The other dog they got from me is smaller( just 4 lbs) and his neuter went fine and he also had a teeth clean another time and that went fine too. ( they did the test) They used a different vet ,and now Julie feels like it's her fault. From what I understand they vet said the test wasn't nessary but but they still wanted it done and never signed a waiver so they assumed the vet would do it. She made it through the spay but never woke up. Heck my friend just brough in some stray cats that were on her farm she just bought to be fixed and she had to sign a waiver just for strays. ( not that they aren't important too, but you know what I mean) I didn't mean to freak anyone out about fixing their pet but this was a shock to be sure. Yes Cricket I do have a good vet but they told me they just lost a yorkie too, but that was the first in many years. I'm still trying to figure out why they can't just give them a puff of gas so they are really relaxed, but not totally out, to pull a few teeth.
I imagine it's because they don't want to risk that they may accidnetly traumatize the dog because it 'remembers' certain aspects of the surgery. We can't ask a dog, "What exactly did you remember from that?" the way we can a human, did you have any bad feelings/impressions while you were semiconcious?
Min, just for the record, I had a procedure done a few years ago where I was supposed to be awake but not feel anything. Well, guess what? I was out couldn't talk, but could feel everything. It was the most horrible experience of my life. Anesthesia is a funny thing and as we all know there are always risks with human as well as animals.
Jeanie, I am so sorry for you and that family. I hope they take some action against the vet. I understand that sometimes bad things happen to good vets (like yours) but IMO a good vet would not have refused to do the tests. What a horrible experience for you all.
When Ariel was spayed at 6 months (about 5 pounds at that time) I was really scared, but she came through just fine. I love my vet and I trust him and his staff, but how can you not worry? But I did know she was in good hands.
I can't believe that vet discouraged the blood work. Its usually the opposite. I think I would be looking for a new vet. That is where we got in trouble with Tina. She had just had a check-up the week before and stupid me told them not to do more blood work. Well, it almost cost her life. Now, I have the blood test done with anything they do. So, so, sorry about that little girl. I have a friend that has a 4lb. yorkie, I sure intend to tell her about this because I know she doesn't know and she thinks her baby is the healthest dog in town. Like someone said you just don't ever know.
Gina, apparently thats what happened to my mom when they sewed her back up after having me. She will never let me live that down. She said she felt every cut and the anethisiologist told her she was imagining it!
My dobe had the test done and it said he was fine I guess(cuz they went ahead with the surgery)but he still reacted bad to the anesthesia. I'm actually not even sure how the test works or what it looks for.
boy i am so sorry to hear the little one passed...I hope they get something from the vet...since he admitted to wrong doing..i know i would try...im hearing more and more about dogs dying during a spay...pertty sad...all your trying to do is the right thing...
Hey Cricket, my vet said they do both. They start with the IV juice and then finish with gas. I talked to my friend that breeds Yorkies too and she only lets them do gas and the vet is fine with that. My vet said the IV first so the dogs doesn't get frantic and struggle when they try to put the mask on first for the gas. I'm sure the dog is scared either way so I am going to request gas only from now on.
***Edited By: jeanief on 6/9/2005 11:43:30 AM*** Reason: sp