I can post more pics, if requested. Maybe some more angles and head or body part specific shots?
He was listed as a "Aussie-Spaniel" mix, but paperwork said "Husky mix". Some have suggested Aussie-Golden and another Husky-Golden? I don't see the Husky, outside of the eyes (but these eyes aren't limited to Husky, are they?).
His front paws are semi-large.. lacking in marked transition from leg to paw, it seems. In unkind human terms, one might call his legs "cankles" (calf/ankle lacking in clear definition). His rear paws are notably smaller and more defined from leg to paw.
He's about 35lbs and healthy.. not underweight, it doesn't seem. Again, he's reportedly at least 7 months, no more than one year, but most estimates placed him at 7 to 9 months, no baby teeth, some tartar buildup which caused one person to estimate as at least 1yr old, but perhaps this is just from not being given any form of chew?
I offer this because he was very unreceptive towards chewing things until we worked with him and some toys (rope, chew-toys, etc.). I'd love to know more about his history, as it seems he may have been stifled from more than just chewing. He didn't seem to know or feel comfortable with toys/chews AND seemed uncomfortable or uncertain about playing with any real exuberance.. something we have also worked on and he's really taken on a brighter personality for it.
Lately, he'll walk up to us with a playful gait and give us 'the paw'.. where he reaches out with his paw for your hand or knee with his ears down and then tries to engage you in play. Just not sure what to make of the initial seemingly lack of interest or confidence in the chewing and playing departments. Possibly he had an 'older', more subdued owner?, or was routinely discouraged from 'puppy behavior'?, or who knows what. I would note that I can raise and wave my hand over him with relative quickness and he doesn't flinch or seem to care, so hopefully he wasn't beaten or physically abused into being somewhat subdued. What seems clear to us is that he really wants to play, and chew, and tug.. he just needed some encouragement to do so. As he adjusts, he's becoming the initiator, so I'd consider that a positive sign.
He's submissive (not shy/cowering), in that he willingly lets even our youngest daughter flip him on his back without complaint. He approaches us all with dropped ears and wagging tail. He doesn't like to maintain eye contact when confronted. I can put my hand in his food dish while he's eating and he couldn't care less about it, he just keeps eating. For a relative stranger, he's adapted as if he's been with us forever.
While the vets he's been to and the two shelters he came through don't agree on the mix involved, overall, it doesn't really matter to us if he's a pit-bull/yorkie mix, or half-dog/half-fish because he is incredibly well behaved, intelligent, loves to be next to, half-on, or nearby someone all the time. He's been extremely accepting and loving to our 4 kids kids. He seems to not mind our 3 cats or our one rabbit... though he loves to lick the rabbit all over (maybe he's 'tasting him' for later enjoyment!). He shows only a general interest in our cats (drops ears, wags tail, sniffs at them) until he gets in a mood to see the cats run -- he will occasionally drop playfully down on his front paws to spook them and then chases them into another room with his nose at their heels without nipping, then comes strutting back all proud and wagging his tail.
We feel like we've really struck gold with a sweeheart of a shelter pup. No idea why he was given up (originally sheltered in Indiana, at a reportedly high-kill facility). We're just glad he was rescued/transferred to a Massachusetts no-kill shelter by volunteers and that we found him within a day or so of his arrival before someone else was lucky enough to invite him home.
I am NOT a dog expert, by any stretch, so I'm only going by general instinct and a layperson's casual observations. Owning a great dog while growing up is the closest I come to being qualified in discerning dog behavior. That this puppy seems to be a 'good dog' might best sum up my 'expert' opinion! ;-)
Thanks for such a quick response! His sheltered name was Ted E., but my wife and kids quickly renamed him "Bailey".. primarily in memory of my Grandparents (last name), who we loved so much, and at least in part because it seemed 'close enough' in sound/cadence to "Ted E". Maybe a bit warped, but it seems to work!
As you can tell from the date they took him in, he didn't last long. We adopted him pretty quick once the ad was posted. I think I claimed he was now '35 lbs'.. but he's actually 32lbs. I just weighed him thinking I misquoted his weight (which I did).
I can post more pics over the next day or two, once I get a chance to downsize and upload some more.
Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the helpful posts!
Huskies and Aussies are the most common carriers of the genetic code that causes blue eyes (different than the merle gene- which can also cause blue spotting in the eyes). The mode of inheritance isn't fully understood yet- it's likely due to multiple genes- but it sure does make for a pretty eye. :)
I can definitely see Aussie in the mix. There might be some golden in the mix- lab even. Something retriever-ish.
And though I honestly can't understand how 99% of people who give up on pets justify it to themselves- when I see such a physically beautiful dog- it's even HARDER to "get". Sure it's shallow. But so is our society. ;)
Congrats on a great find- he's just a gorgeous boy.
You know, Icy- I think you're probably right. I can definitely see merling along the bridge of his nose. I wasn't aware that "Husky blue eyes" were a recessive factor- but "DUH"- should have suspected as such. I guess that although a Heinz 57 can draw from an awfully large gene pool, there's always the *chance* that somewhere down the line things lined up right. I don't believe that blue eyes run in any of the retriever lines, though- so I suppose that mix would be out of the question (if the blue eyes were NOT the result of merling).
I do know, however- that it's very rare to see two completely blue eyes in a single merle- so in any case, he is an interesting creature. :)
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It really wouldn't matter, though- if the parent were a double or single merle- given that that parent only contributes half of that gene structure. If the parent were a double, he and all his siblings are merled. If one parent was a single, then he and all his sibs had a chance of being merle. Doesn't up the chances of the blue eyes at all- still up to chance.
I *do* think you're probably right, though- he does appear to have dilution on his coat. Huskies have some interesting color genetics (including random dilution not on the M/m locus)- and I guess it's *possible* that he has husky in him, though it's definitely not obvious.
WOW-Crazy eyes! It looks almost like an altered photo because the eyes look unreal!! The only eyes ive seen that striking are my fiances! When my brother met my fiance-he asked if my fiance had an eye problum, or cataracts! But thats just his color!! They are very impressive! Looks like a golden mix to me! Does he see ok? He sure is a beutiful mix of something!
Those blue eyes are just a total lack of pigment. In reality, the tissue is WHITE- they just look blue because of the way they reflect light. They're colorless because melanin is missing- a result of whatever dilution took place at the genetic level. They're more sensitive to light (as all light colored eyes are), and sunlight can be painful- but not more prone to cataracts or eye disease.
My own eyes are extremely pale blue- which makes sunlight awful. I wear sunglasses religiously- and still end up with a headache on bright summer days if I'm out too long. :-s
welcome to the board and thanks for sharing pics of your great looking dog,,.i laughted when you discribed his legs as cankals..lol...he looks great and very soft...I bet the whole family just loves him...Well..keep us posed on Baily and again welcome and hope to hear more about you and yours..take care
I'm glad to see that so many (most? all?) seem to be in agreement on a likely breed mix. Again, we're just happy that he's happy and fitting in so well, but it is a point of curiousity to try and find out as much as we can about him.
We're going to try and contact the shelter in Indiana this weekend, in search of more information about his background, if that's possible. We really have no idea WHY he was sheltered in the first place, or for how long. It's a shame he had to be there at all, and then to be transferred out of state to another. But,.. hopefully his misfortune will be turned our collective benefit.
There's no shortage of attention being given here, that much is for sure. He's has us two parents, with my wife being a fulltime 'stay-at-home Mom', and 4 kids ranging from college (20), high school (16), middle school (10), and elementary (7).
Again, thanks for all the responses and welcomes. I'll check back over the weekend and hopefully have some more purposeful pics from several angles, standing, sitting, etc., if anyone is interested in seeing more of him from different perspectives.