OMG! Did I read correctly? Is Trinity really planning on breeding a RESCUE dog?? What the HE** is wrong with you?!? You NEVER breed a rescue! Poor dog-all the stress she would be under... I think YOU should be banned from owning an animal! I know, sounds harsh, but it's how I feel about people like you, trinity.
Thanks huron - The stories, or should I say tales, keep getting more far fetched. It may have been believeable to think some un-informed soul would actually seek to breed 2 breeds together and had come to TP for advice.
However, after following the thread, this person keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole to bury themselves and their poor dogs in.
Let's see...their dog is just over a year old and when asked about genetic testing, said their dog has had all the testings done. Wrong. Some of them can't physically be done until the dog is 2 years old, so would we call that yet another tall tale?
Some people actually believe their own lies. It's just unfortunate that this person has pets in the first place. Or maybe that is all a big story too?
Besides that, to be rude to the people that are trying to offer their advice, when they obviously asked for other peoples opinions. That behaviour is completly unacceptable, in my book.
Mark me "proud to have said good-bye! to trinity1, Basset_Lover
I'm thoroughly enjoying the fact that Trinity1 keeps telling everyone who is asking her a serious, breeding related question to get lost. :) I thought my questions concerning OFA clearance on hips and on Service dog testing were pretty logical and easy to answer. Is it just me, or aren't those questions any knowledgable dog person would ask?
And by the way Trinity1 - if you are still reading this thread - it doesn't matter how many generations of your family have had miscellaneous litters of puppies. What matter is HOW it was done. Do they/did they show in the conformation ring? Breed puppies that did something spectacular like win champion titles, or act as service dogs? Because it's pretty easy to be a BYB or Miller and say you have breeders in your family. My grandparents let their dachshund have a couple of litters of puppies 25 years ago. That doesn't mean I call them "breeders" or ask them for advice in my breeding endevors. In fact, they don't know near enough to be breeding. Having a couple of litters from the family dog doesn't count by way of being a knowledgable breeder. Now my parents raised Malamute Huskies for 10 years. About half of their pups went on to be working sled dogs. I listen to my Mom because she knows what she is talking about BUT she still didn't do the things I think are important with dog breeding (ie HIP CLEARANCES!!!).
So until you can answer my questions regarding hip clearances and service dog testing then don't acknowledge me (even to say to go away) and guess what - I'm going to keep calling you out because I don't think that folks that don't have the knowledge I do or the ability to smell a rat like I do, need to be listening to your bologna. Should you breed your dog you are destine to be one of the worst kind of breeders - a very unknowledgable Backyard Breeder.
Why am I even bothering with this? Because even though I can't save the world from bad breeders I can take an active role in educating the general public about how to spot one! (HERE'S ONE!!!!) And if one iota of what I'm saying to you seeps into you brain then maybe you'll decide not to breed - or at least do it responsibly.
And as far as Tuna goes - it doesn't matter how much a breeder/person LOVES THEIR DOG. If they don't take the time to do their research before breeding, don't take the proper precautions before breeding (hip testing), and aren't breeding a quality dog with a good background and sound temperament then they are doing a HUGE injustice to people who are looking to adopt a puppy from them. Temperament and Health are genetic. And a puppy from an unknowledgable breeder is just about the same as getting one from a shelter. Save your money and go save a dog that needs saving rather than lining the pockets of a breeder that shouldn't be breeding.
Finally - (I know I type too much) - If your dog came from a questionable breeder than you better not be breeding her!!!! You have no idea what kind of health issues are in her line and what kind of can of worms you are opening. I also sincerly doubt the dog is of conformational breeding quality or that the temperament is ideal. I got a dog from a shady breeder once - I SPAYED HER!!!!
Also just like someone else said in one of the above post. They said that I wasn't listening to there advice well for one I never asked for ya'll advice I asked for ya'lls opinion. Plus Don't you dare call me a backyard breeder. Just because an organization wouldn't take someone elses dogs doesn't mean anything. Ya'll haven't been reading what I have been putting up or maybe ya'll can't read so I'm sick of hearing what ya'll think about me cause that has nothing to do with me question.
"How does everyone feel about breeding 2 different AKC registered dogs which are different breeds?"
I read (because I feel this is more relevent than the mix breed issue) :
"How does everyone feel about breeding 2 AKC registered dogs?"
So I answered your question. It isn't a cut and dried question, unfortunately. As a responsible breeder I can't give you an answer to that until I know HOW you are going to go about doing this and what knowledgable, responsible measures you are taking.
Hence my pushing the point of Hip Clearances and Service Dog Testing. I'm totally against breeding poor quality dogs that may produce poor quality (and I consider quality temperament and health) puppies in a manner that is not responsible to the dogs, puppies, or the adoptive families. I'm also totally against breeding dogs when you don't have sufficient knowledge to do so responsibly and safely.
I wasn't so much giving you advice as I was giving you my opinion of what a responsible breeder is. I don't think you should be breeding any dogs without knowing what you are doing (which I don't feel you do) regardless of whether they are the same breed or not.
well as a responcable breeder...or the very best that i can be as far as that goes..i have contacted all the service organizations and only 1 will accept sheperds..and when i did rescue i contacted all the organizations that sauid they took mix breeds and pound dogs...and it was bunk for the most part..most want a oka'd pedigreed dog..and most dont want shepherds because of the protective nature..ill even post the responce email i got from one stating that same fact. I wanted to GIVE back to my community and find I can only give to one organization..Now I have excellent pedrigees...oka'd stock..and still no service organizations are jumping in line to back me up...lol..i wonder what im doing wrong here?lol..nerve mind..she's a loon and no amount of talking sence will help..i pitty any thing she produces and forses into the world and into the shelter system...more mutts that will be put to sleep...hope you enjoyed your project Trinity...
I read this thread and I tried to resist, but my breeder instincts wouldn't let me. I could go on and explain to you in many different ways, that breeding mutts is not helping ANYONE in ANYWAY but it looks like all these lovely people have done it for me and the chances of you comprehending anything of what I say are probably slim to none. A mutt is a mutt, there are plenty to go around, don't add more miserable dogs to death row.
***Edited By: kirkpharaohhounds on 6/20/2005 10:51:44 PM*** Reason: Spell check?
Q: "How does everyone feel about breeding 2 different AKC registered dogs which are different breeds? "
A: Simple answer like you have stated that you want: I feel that it is a very bad idea. For the same reasons stated by other members here.
I'm curious why you asked here. At first I would have thought that maybe you were considering doing it and wanted some input to help you decide whether or not to do it. But after many posts, and not one of them saying it would be a good thing, you decide to do it.. So I guess you were not asking in order to help you make a good decision about the breeding. What was your purpose in asking for our opinions?
I think you could also use some obedience classes as well, and here I thought my Darla was bad. :-P I've never been to that "fourm" but post that thread there, see how they take it. And I might be wrong because I'm new but isn't it against the rules to promote websites? Oh well, this is altogether pointless.