If the owners treat their pets right they wont attack people.Just because its a pit everyone makes it a big deal and its not fair.If a husky (no offense to husky owners)attacks someone people are like it was just an accident a pit or rott does it it turns into national news.My boyfriends pits are the sweetest and through the 4 years me and him have been together his pits have never been aggresive towards me,my 2 yr old son,or anyone else.I may be 16 but I know what im talkin about.Again if owners raised their dogs right there wouldnt be any attacks.And not only pits attack people other breeds do it to.
The obvious difference is that those smaller breeds are rather less likely to critically injure or kill somebody. They are much easier to control, and when they do bite they are generally not capable of inflicting nearly the same level of damage.
Each dog bite should be taken on a case by case basis. Yes pits are extremely powerful dogs.With a responsible owner,knowing proper dog temperment,being trained correctly,this breed you couldn't ask for a better dog.Idiot people are creating this problem.Don't blame the breed,blame the owners.
***Edited By: rednosered on 6/23/2005 6:57:31 AM*** Reason: add on.
And I don't 'blame' the dogs, nor do I support ANY kind of BSL. But prospective owners need to realistically consider what they're getting into before purchasing certain breeds. The evidence is overwhelming that some folks can't handle it.
My belief is you cannot take the aggresiveness out of a Pit Bull any more than you take the retrieve out of a Lab!
With that said a good owner can raise and train a Pit to be less aggresive! They are less forgiving in raising and Training! and as we all know a lot of people buy them for the status or protection and a lot of these people ARE NOT GOOD TRAINERS!
I also hear how they are only aggresive towards other dogs because of there breeding! I say how would a pit, Rott know the differance between another dog or a 3 year old? They are about the same height?
These Breeds have the potenial to cause serious damage and most people are unwilling to accept that there dog has this aggresive gene!
I'm off the soapbox!
***Edited By: foosdog on 6/23/2005 4:59:28 PM*** Reason: misspelling
And it's not the pit bulls fault they attack people. Its the owners. Obviously these dogs were not socialized well enough or were trained to fight/be aggressive. Pit bulls are not born aggressive, they are not born ready to fight (people). Their owners make them that way. And any dog can attack a person if not properly trained and cared for. Heck a little cocker spaniel could seriously hurt someone. So STOP blaming the breed. So sick of hearing "pit bull attack".
There must also be alot of this paticular breed in that area if there are so many attacks. If you live in an area where the most popular breed is german shepard, you are going to have more incidents of german shepards attacking than any other breed. Common sense.
foosdog, I ma pretty sure that there are trainers out there right now deprogramming aggressive pits with much success, ceasar millan has to be the most famous for this. also, dogs can differante between humans and dogs, i am sure i will get much support that some dogs are "dog aggressive" and no human aggressive, height has nothing to do with it. also, dogs can differante breed, I have a malinois, and my training mentor has 4 malinois, his females, two of whom are dominant to other dogs, my mal is submissive, sensing this they do try dominate him. the mals have never bit him trying to be dominant over him, where they have been much more aggressive toward other breeds. my mal definatly does not like german shepards or boxers, and he loves pits. my girl shayna is fixed although she does do courting posture with some males, only black labs though. That is no conicedence. dogs also can tell ages of dogs to within weeks of each other
Foosdog , a stable pit bull should not be human aggressive.I'm sick of this argument and to tired.Unless you have any knowledge what so ever about APBT ,please don't post junk.This breed is over bred ,and many dogs are used a macho male extension of them selves.
"We've had three in the Bay Area in less than a month. *Everyone* is getting pretty sick of it."
What proof do you have that they were IN FACT pit bulls??? More than half the time when a news report says "pit bull attack" it's not really an American Pit Bull Terrier. It's a mixed breed or one that looks like it.
"What proof do you have that they were IN FACT pit bulls???"
Well, there's pictures for one, and owner statements. The Nicholas Faibish case, which was a fatality, was very well documented. But, you asked for proof, so here goes: a run down of all three pit bull attacks in the Bay area this month:
-=-=-=-=- On the Faibish case:
Quote from Faibish's mother: "Oh, they should keep their pit bulls,'' Faibish said. "Even though my son has been killed in a tragic accident, I don't think they should be banned.
Quote from Faibish's grandfather: I'll tell you what I would do: kill every pit bull in San Francisco," a red-eyed Brennan said between sobs at his home, not far from where his daughter's family lived. "I don't like pit bulls, never have."
Quote from Smokey, the woman who was taking care of the 8 month old pit bull that attacked her 8 year old neighbor: "I didn't want it here in the first place," she said from her home. "I hate pit bulls."
An American Pit Bull terrier is one breed of dog that falls under the type of dogs commonly referred to as pit bulls. According to the proposed Ontario ban, a pit bull includes:
# A pit bull terrier. # A Staffordshire bull terrier. # An American Staffordshire terrier. # An American pit bull terrier. # A member of a class of dogs that have an appearance and physical characteristics that are substantially similar to dogs referred to above.
What a pit bull is isn't a mystery at all; if you own one of the above dogs, you own what is referred to as either a pit bull or a pit bull mix. To be fair, they also list what isn't a pit bull:
"My belief is you cannot take the aggresiveness out of a Pit Bull any more than you take the retrieve out of a Lab!"
APBTs were not bred to be human agressive. Human agression and dog agression are two very different things.
"With that said a good owner can raise and train a Pit to be less aggresive! They are less forgiving in raising and Training! and as we all know a lot of people buy them for the status or protection and a lot of these people ARE NOT GOOD TRAINERS!"
What most people dont know is that APBTs suck at being watchdogs. Atleast mine does. Shell put on a good show and bark but if you walk up to her shell beg to be pet. Hell shes probally lead a robber into my house if she thought it would get her pet.
"I also hear how they are only aggresive towards other dogs because of there breeding! I say how would a pit, Rott know the differance between another dog or a 3 year old? They are about the same height?"
Yes they were bred for dog agression. I believe a APBT an tell the difference between a dog and a child as well as you and i. I dont care how tall they are. Dogs and humans smell different, give off differnt pheramones, and are built completely different.
"Breeds have the potenial to cause serious damage and most people are unwilling to accept that there dog has this aggresive gene!"
Its people like that that get the breed in trouble. If you are going to own an APBT you should understand the breeds history and what makes that a pit. You should understand the potential dangers of owning the breed and be prepared to handle and prevent any problems.
"Its people like that that get the breed in trouble. If you are going to own an APBT you should understand the breeds history and what makes that a pit. You should understand the potential dangers of owning the breed and be prepared to handle and prevent any problems. "
I so agree with this statement!
WoW how niave are some people to believe there dog which has been breed for aggresiveness can be cured by a gentle touch!!! give me a break! Lets use Labs as an example: How many generations of selective (line or unknown) breeding would take a breeder to take the fetch or love of water out of a Lab??
And how niave is it to think a Pit,Rott,Akita,Chow can or dare I say cares about the difference between another dog or child! You lovers forget these are still animals! regardless of how you feel about your dog, IT IS STILL A DOG!
Ceasar??? hate to inform you but can you say made for TV!
Please don't post some study done by the Pit Bull lovers of America to support the breed! Where is the real evidence that this breed isn't dangerous?