I was just wondering why you do about your neighbours who leave their dogs off-leash or loose in their yard and what happens when you walk by?
I have some neighbours that are very bad for that. There's this one lady who has a small I believe it's a shih tzu X dog and a lab X and they're always loose in her yard and everytime we walk by they come out to the street barking and growling at our dog (who's on-leash obviously). Our dog isn't exactly the most social dog when she's on leash so she throws her little fit that we're trying to work on. I always tell the lady to come get her dogs because she tries calling them and they don't listen to her at all and she always tells me to either cross the street or turn the other way if I don't like it.
What is your input on this and how would you deal with this situation. I'm trying to be nice to this lady about it and she comes out and bites my head off for my dog being in my total control and on-leash yet her dogs can do whatever the heck they want. That's just plain wrong and rude of her and I want to know of a better way to deal with it. I don't want to change my walk route just to please her and Jesse does not some socializing (allthough not this way that's for sure) to get rid of her dog-to-dog on leash agression. Any suggestion??
Wow this is a hard one, your dog is reacting to to aggression of the other dogs (theres 2 right?) Twice the excitment. I used to walk my dogs past a lady who had 3 or 4 Pom's. They would all freak out and run to the fence barking and growling. Now I AM a b***h, so as I come up to the house I slow down, let my dogs go up to the fence, little fussing/growling/teeth and slowly walk away(La, la la,la ,la), The owner comes running out trying to collect her pack of dogs that are running circles around her. (Her dogs freak out at everyone that passes.) Mean while I'm walking away laughing. Theres nothing you or she can do, your not on her property right? The side walk goes past her house? You could try desensitizing your dog to these dogs but you would need the dogs (her dogs) outside. In your case I would scope out her house and find out when her dogs are out and when they are in and adjust when you walk your dogs past her house. Its really a better idea to have different routes anyways really. If you scope the house out, you won't have to give in to the mean old Lady....
I have basically the same ongong battle with my neighbor. They have 4 chi mixes and they are unleashed and outside all the time. Those dogs run up and down the street, chase and bark at cars, kids, people, you name it. They come in to my yard and bark at ME! What nerve. I finally lost it a few weeks ago and went outside and started yelling at them that we have leash laws for a reason, etc, etc. Problem is my neighbors don't speak English and I don't speak Spanish, but I think I got my point across because now whenever they see me they grab the dogs and take them inside. Not that it helps anybody else, they probably all think I'm the crazy old B... But it was really getting to me.
I don't have a clue what you should do, but it is so unfair that people like this cause responsible people to have to change their routines. Even people who don't have dogs obviously don't like being chased down the street. I know who ever said life is fair, I know it's not, but if anyone has a good solution I want to try it too!!!!
Sue, they don't have a fenced yard, their dogs just run right up into the street (there's no sidewalk on our street because it's not really a main street). I do have a secondary route but it's out of the way, I picked it in case something like this were to happen but I shouldn't have to turn the other way because of her irresponsibility.
Trust me, I'm a b**** too and I would tell her right off if I had the chance but it's a very nice neighbourhood and I don't want all my neighbours to see me as a mean person because I'm young and I don't want them getting the wrong impression of me (not that I care though, I'm one of those people who could care less what people think of me). I want my dog to get socialized but this isn't the right way at all! Poor Jesse probably sees these 2 dogs as a threat to her, all running after us and barking, growling and snarling, she's on-leash so of course her reaction is to want to fight back, she's got nowhere to go so she needs to defend herself.
The other day, the lady was sitting on her lounge chair outside talking on the phone when we rode past on our bikes with Jesse alongside us (and she's always very good) until all of a sudden these dogs come out running after us onto the street and I nearly ran them over, literally (now I'm thinking maybe I shoulda...hehehe...) and Jesse starts freaking right out and almost pulls me down with my bike. The lady didn't even seem phased, I yelled at her to get her "damn dogs" and she kept talking on the phone, casually calling their names, not even trying to get them back in the yard. Boy was I furious!!
Oh man, you sound like me. Friday night I was on my way home from the airport, turn down my street and the first thing to greet me? My home, my dogs? No...the neighbors dogs running out in the street right at the truck. I opened the windows and yelled "Get your damn dogs out of the street!" When I finally get to my house my next door neighbor is outside and she is laughing and giving me the thumbs up. At least somebody else on the street understands.
I completely understand what you mean. It's so frustrating not to be able to even go outside without being charged by these four dogs. They are small dogs but I don't dare take my dogs outside in my own neighborhood anymore. My bigger dogs, I don't know what they would do if they were confined to a leash and these dogs came at them and my smaller dogs would freak out I know. Even though I could pick up two of them, I shouldn't have to and it's infuriating.
I have called animal control trying to get them an off leash sitation. No luck. By the time they get themselves over here the dogs are off hiding or have gone inside so they won't do anything. I have even called the cops and they went over and talked to them and told them there was a leash law and they could not let their dogs continue to run the neighborhood. The cops came back and told me that the people said they were going to "get rid of the dogs" well that was months ago and now they have four, back then there was only two. I feel for the dogs because it's not their fault, but it's only a matter of time until they get hurt or hurt someone else, a child or another animal. I am at my whits end and have no clue where to go with this either. I have lived here for 17 years and these people are fairly new to the neighborhood. Thing is with the exception of one or two of my neighbors no one around here ever wants to get involved with anything and I feel stuck. I don't want animal control to really pick up the dogs because I know they will be pts and the people will probably just get more. I have taken to going outside with my camera and trying to catch them running around and barking or chasing people or in my yard. I figure after I get enough evidence maybe I can get them cited and fined for something. Sometimes money is the only way to get someone's attention.
It would depend on the leash laws of your state. If they are not considered "vicious" dogs eg. Pits, Dobys and the like then there may be nothing legally you can do. May try speaking to your neighbor. In Virginia the leash law only is enforced if the dog is off your property.
So called vicious dogs have to be controlled all the time.
I hear ya. In my neighborhood when I was growing up it was so bad that we were afraid to walk our dog in our own yard - and justifiably so, given the number of large free-roaming dogs that would come charging at us.
Finally, when I was 11, I was mauled by a yellow lab on the way to a friend's house. Came out of nowhere. The owner acted absolutely appalled that my father had the audacity to demand that she contain her animal from then on or else face a lawsuit. "You just need to get to know the dog!" she said.
If they don't have a fenced yard and they're not leashed that woman is just irresponsible. Those dogs could get ran over! I would just ask her to secure them. There is alot that can go wrong with dogs that are loose- you mentioned the breeds, so it isn't as dramatic- but a girl at my work told me about how she was walking with her min-pin and two rotweilers came out and attacked her trying to get to her dog. She ended up in the hospital with lots of scars and hospital bills she is still suing for. Keep being nice would be my suggestion. Tell her you are not comfortable with the situation and would really appreciate if the dogs were put on a run or something- I'm not sure how much that would cost, maybe you could even pick up one for her and that might make her realize how strongly you feel about it.
***Edited By: Teloulou420 on 6/29/2005 2:33:32 PM*** Reason: *
Sometimes Bosco sits on the front porch with me with a leash on but I'm not holding it. He just watches my every move and goes where ever I go. Even if I switch chairs, he moves himself too. Sometimes if he gets hot, he will go lay in front of the fan on the porch. When people or people with dogs walk by, he just glances to see what's walking by and then continues lying in front of the fan. The leash is there for me to grab if there was some unforseen circumstance to cause him to run, though.
Manson doesn't get to go on the porch with me off the leash because he'd act stupid about dogs walking by.
Oh, this is one thing that just really cooks me! I can't walk my own dogs down a public street because of other people's dogs that come out at us. I have a neighbor that for the past two days, their dog is loose now and looks like hell- it is covered with ticks and bug bites, so it is carrying ticks and garbage into my yard for my dogs to get them. Gee, thanks! I like dogs, I really do. I don't mind NICE dogs coming for a visit, like the big white GSD that was here the other day- I really enjoyed that guy's company. But when the neighbor dogs come over and tear into the trash, terrorize my child or my dogs, prevent me from going out into my front yard with my dogs, GRRRRR. My other comment to the neighbors is that I don't let my three dogs sh*% in their yard, so why is it ok for their dog to do it in mine? (I have been known to scoop poop and give it back to the neighbors... VBEG..)
Speaking of the neighbor's dog, anybody want a fear agressive, bug infested, weenie dog mix? Sigh...
I'm seriously contemplating contacting the police to find out what can be done about this lady and her damn dogs. I'm sick of it and I'm sure I'm not the only one, just haven't heard anybody else complain about her. I'm going to have to find out exactly what the leash laws are here in BC, I know it's probably the same as everywhere else, as long as they're on your property it's fine. Well, I'll let you know what I find out and I'll try to go for a walk again tonight and see what happens.
I swear if those dogs are outside I don't know what I'll do...>:[
I had a neighbor that used to let her dogs run loose at her fron yard, and wouldn’t give a damn about all the trouble they caused and all the other neighbors they ticked off. The AC were not much help either.
One day some one had enough and poisoned her dogs. two died and one made it after he was in the vet for a week. She got more dogs after that, but never let them out again. She learned her lesson the hard way.
We have a collie in our neighborhood that runs at large creating unwanted puppies everywhere he goes. His owners are well aware of this fact, and have even told us that he's broken INTO chain-link fences to get to a female in heat. Yet they do nothing. Great people, great friends, don't want to create bad feelings, but VERY frustrating. When it happened to my sister's mastiff that she'd been trying to artificially breed (and spent way too much money doing it), her husband was furious. He loaded up the dog and drove to a remote friends' house. He had dark intentions on the dog, but it so happened that the friend's father-in-law was there and asked about the gorgeous dog in the car. My brother-in-law said it needed a new home, so he stripped the collar nad handed it over. The new owner took him home, took him to a groomer, kept him inside and gave him quite a life. But a dog of 10 years won't just leave his first home without a fight, so after several weeks managed to escape. The humane society picked him up walking along the turnpike. His original owners just happened to see a collie listed in the pound's newspaper ad. They stopped, and sure enough it was him. They were aghast that someone would steal their dog and try to keep him for a pet when he obviously belonged to someone! They got him fixed immediately to keep him from straying. We had our doubts (he's 10 - old dogs wont' learn new tricks), but it worked! What started out as a bad situation and solution ended up working for the neighborhood.
Perhaps kidnapping dogs would wake up owners all over the country!
GUNNY - I shouldn't have to just stop walking in front of her house because she can't control her dogs. She shouldn't have her dogs be able to run loose anyways so it's not my fault...I'm allowed to walk my dog wherever I please, whenever I want...
SHIG - I'm from BC, vancouver island to be exact...
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I will definately be contacting the animal control to find out the exact leash laws in our town, better yet, I'll first try to look online and see because our by-laws are also listed online but if I can't find anything I'll call tomorrow...