Wow, I wondered on here and am sadenned by the superiority complex of "purebred" animal fanciers. There is much talk about breed mixes not being pure, and in fact, a mutt a thousand times over is the purest purebred outthere. Humans have messed with canine genetics to the point where many animals physical makeup severly shorten their lives and cause countless health problems. And NO, you cannot breed out the bad and breed in the good, genetics is not that convienient. The only way to give the highest probability that a creature will be free from genetic diseases (not even taking into consideration problems stemming from strange physical extremes, such as what Great Danes and Pugs suffer from) is to let nature take it's course and be done with it. So, all the dogs in the shelters, which are supposedly by in large mixed breeds, who are on death row........they probably wouldn't be on death row if HUMANS hadn't altered genetics while simultaneously creating demand for there inventions. Dingos of Australia are perfectly healthy dogs with a wide range of skills, abilities and personalities. Too bad the average dog couldn't be like that.
Some people have superioity complexes, but not all.
There is more to a "mutt" then its apperance. There is temperment, habits, instincts, and personality. No it is not a wolf, but the diffrence between a mutt and a purebred is predicitability.
Some of us wish for that in our dog ownership. Not everyone enters the world of animal ownership of any species of animal with the urge to just obtain that animal.
Someone who wants a miniture horse wants a miniture horse.
Someone who wants fancy guppies is not going to be happy with a common goldfish.
There is more then the ownership of a dog or cat or anything else that drives many people.
For me, it is to own Afghan Hounds. I wish for every aspect of these dogs to be afghan hounds. I wish to preserve what the origional creators of the breed produced to the best of my ability.
If I just wanted a "dog" I'd get one from a shelter.
But I want more then that, and there stands my choice.
I choose to excercise my options and get the dog that I want, not just any dog. I have nothing against mutts but I have everything against anyone that just breeds without cause. I have everything against the person who combines two dogs for a cute name and a pocket of cash. Animal husbantry is an artform, it is about choice, dedication and sacrifice and I stand here, knowing that I may not be able to breed twenty years from now because of the ignorant who have ruined the purebred dog for cash and a lack of morals.
I love all dogs, but I don't want most dogs. I want exactly what I got when I bought my purebred puppy. Every quality and trait about him is everything I've ever wanted in a dog.
He hunts, guards, sticks close to me at all times, is smart, loving, cuddles, sporty... etc. That's what I like in a dog, and that is what I got because that's what his breed is all about.
A small dog or a lazy dog wouldn't fit well into my lifestyle because I am pretty active and like to walk/swim with my pup everyday. A dog that runs away when off leash wouldn't be good becuase most places I take my pup are off leash. A dog that is not good with children, cats, people in general wouldn't be good for me. You just don't know what you are going to get when you get a mixed dog or a breed you don't know about. At least with purebreds you know what to expect, most of the time.
See, Malachi is a Longcoat, and some GSD people, think LC's are evil.. hehe.. Ok, what it is, is the a long coat is an "un-desirable" trait. I love this trait, and I will only own a LC. I'm just a snob like that. So, the I get weird looks for some GSD people, and I get weird looks from teh shelter people, because I bought my pooch from a breeder, and didnt rescue a dog.
I ignore most people now.. unless they have good things to say about my pooch :)
just curious, what kind of pooch do you have? it almost sounding like you also had a GSD, or a Rott.
I think of few of you who are here to just start trouble, need to take a little time and fully research genetics and hybrd vigor before you start jumping all over this topic. The simple truth is and this is basically it for most of us, is that if you are a breeder who is truly trying to start a new breed, you will have a parent club in the making and others working along with you. This takes more money and research developement than most breeders could ever imagine and I can say that 99% of the designer dogs out there that are being marketed that this is not the intention. NOt just look what I'm doing because the public thinks it's cute and demands it. It should never be about public demand and that's the point here.
Icy you couldn't have said it any better. I have always loved the purebred dogs too because its easier to find one that fits your personality and lifestyle. At the time I own a mix, but she was a rescue that I had spent aobut 3 weeks with in our clinic getting to know and absolutely fell in love with her. My next dog will most likely be a purebred, however I love mixes too and wish the best for them. They deserve good homes just as much as the purbreds. That's why I get upset with the designer breeders because they take away homes that could be given to the mixes you can find every day in shelters. That's why I don't aggree with breeding designer dogs because the majority of them are in it for the money. Now, if someone who has the money to create a new breed wants to do it correctly I don't see the problem with it, but don't tell people that these are pure "whateverdoodles". It gives people the wrong idea and if they were upfront with their clients, then the majority of them wouldn't pay the outrageous amount of money that they do for these dogs.
this person is just "goating" us in this sittuation...I say to heck with them...your all intitled to your opinion..and if you can justify it..good for you...please dont attack or call us "rude" for saying as best as we can in type what we think or feel..Thats the beauty of a public forum...the concept is hard to some..but if you dont like it..you know what to do in my book... As for the mutt issue...not one person said they dont like mutts or mixesnot ever...but if your preference is an afghan, shepherd (lc or standard) poodle, or what ever...thats your business..and your privlage to purchase what you want..I also dont care too much for rescues these days..i have seen the seemly side too often..there must be some good ones somewhere...just not in my state...so..nuff said on this from me..good luck..and let the games begin
I agree, when you get a dog you must know what your getting into. I think selective breeding is hugely important to get the qualities that you want. This dosnt mean that a mutt in the pound is a bad choice though! Just know that a dog is in the pound because it was "unwanted" if thats how you want ot put it, exept for when an owner moves and the poor animal cannot come.
Personally, I think the folks promoting mix breeding are the same type of people that end up dropping their dog off at the local pound/shelter because the dog does things that they don't like and can't live with. Let me explain this the best way I can :
I am a herding dog person. I have met countless terriers that I CAN'T STAND. I'm not saying that terriers are bad dogs - but they aren't for me. They have traits I don't like, they do things I find annoying, and even though I am a dog person (I prefer dogs over people) I will never own a terrier. Period. This goes the other way. I love Shelties (I have 20 of them - so I REALLY LOVE them). Some people can't stand the excessive barking that comes with the breed. Some folks don't like it when their dog noses them in the back of them leg constantly because it is "herding" them. Some folks don't appreciate their long coat.
If you were to mix a terrier and a herding dog - what would you get? A dog not for a lot of people.
I have incredibly healthy dogs and puppies - all purebred. I know a lady that has a Golden Retriever/Lab mix that just paid $3000 to have a genetic heart murmur corrected. Mix breeds have health problems too.
Purebred dogs were created to do specific jobs. Because of this, one breed has specific temperament traits. I like this. It means when you adopt an English Springer Spaniel you know what to expect from the dog and what you have to do to keep it happy. You also know what health problems to expect. Mix breeds are like "surprise dogs". You have no idea. If you breed to healthy dogs with good lines you are going to generally get healthy puppies. If you breed two unhealthy dogs - regardless of whether they are the same breed or different - they are still going to have unhealthy puppies.
I'm proud to be a purebred snob. Do I condem poor accidental mix breed puppies - NO! I have one that I love. If you happen to prefer mix breeds, good for you. Good luck finding a GOOD breeder who cares about the "breed" and the dog. I just personally feel, if you want a mix breed, go to the shelter and rescue one.