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Pit Bull Attack in American Canyon Ca.
Goldren Retriever Eaten by 'Friendly' Pit Bulls
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Posted: 2:11:59 PM 7/3/2005
So very sorry Moose.
Defiantly not just that breed….many other breeds bite and show aggression.
I have 3 rescue dogs ( 1 Boxer-Shep mix female and 2 American Staffordshire Terriers male & female) …
… to this day ( 6 yrs later) you would never know they did not come from the same litter. Yes, I know the stories about two pit bulls can’t be together or even with another dog with out supervision… I have never had any problems. I am the pack leader and they follow my lead…Again, Owners responsibility for the behavior of the dogs they care for....and Owners are responsible for where the dogs they care for are at all times. Mine are collared , micro chipped, registered/ licensed and introduced to my neighborhood. They all eat out the same food bowl… never are crated and get along beautifully. My next door neighbors have 3 dogs as well (Rottie, Pit bull , and a smaller dog) we share our fence … and do not have any aggression problems. So I can say with firm assurance the Owners are responsible.


***Edited By: IVYdragonN on 11/4/2005 7:58:58 PM***
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Posted: 2:14:56 PM 7/3/2005
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***Edited By: ivydragonn on 7/3/2005 2:16:58 PM***
Reason: 2nd post
Posted: 2:48:37 PM 7/3/2005
Well said Dragon, and I am happy to hear that your dogs get along with the neighbours dogs. If my neighbours had dogs, I sure hope Jesse would get along with them. But they only have cats that come in our yard to torment her and my landlord's Doxie upstairs...Damn cats...
Posted: 6:41:54 PM 7/3/2005
kiyote, I will tell you this, my sister was an angle, like all children. She was just about 6 years old playing in the back yard. We didnt even know that our neighbors had a Pit Bull, let alone had it in a situation where it could escape. The dog ran from the street into our yard and attacked her, screaming attracted the attention of my mother in the house and she dragged my sister in through the front door. Then called 911. My sister had suffered severe head trama but what killed her was the heavy blood flow that lead to infection. The dog was put down, I am not ushually for having that done but well it was Sarah we were talking about. I dont think about it much but when I do its really really hard. I just dont think those dogs should be owned by anyone who is not in complete control.
Posted: 6:46:52 PM 7/3/2005
Ivory Dragon , animal aggression and prey drive is breed specific in the APBT. Just like with Labs retrieving is breed specific.
Posted: 11:00:51 AM 7/4/2005
Rednosered…
Other breeds do bite and show aggression ..FACT. Btw: Ivy dragonn… not ivory…
Posted: 11:16:20 AM 7/4/2005
Canucktigger… lol… believe it or not my dogs also get along with cats… we have a Persian named Ocelot who lives with us as well during school breaks. Now birds and/or rats on the other hand are not allowed on our lawn…they are chased away... fence sitting for the birds is tolerated but not the lawn..
Posted: 5:43:38 PM 7/4/2005
Ivy,yes other breeds do bite and show aggression,but the APBT was bred for one thing,fighting.Dog aggression is a inherited trait in the breed,and to deny this trait or overlook it is doing the breed a injustice.This is how accidents happen,with people haing your kind of attitude.
Posted: 12:30:24 PM 7/5/2005
Rednosered, my kind of attitude?? Excuse me ? ok, so again I am offended! I take Great care of my dogs and go to great lengths to train them the proper way. I am aware of aggressive animals… of all kinds.[ Dogs, snakes, larger cats, etc. because I do rescue.] The Jack Russell was bred to be aggressive toward small animals like rats (or cats !) Again it is how the Owner takes responsibility for the animal(s) they care for. Any one who takes on the responsibility of animal care should know how to train and handle and care for them. Aggression is not only in the American Staffordshire Terriers… but other breeds as well. It is only because some humans decide to mishandle a breed, any breed…and not be responsible for their behavior ( or encourage the aggressive behavior because they think it is cool) and or abuse/ neglect them that we even have BSL on the table. I do not agree with it… I would like to see a more aggressive lean toward human education/training requirements on animals over all… for ownership.
Posted: 1:05:20 PM 7/5/2005
All i'm saying is to say that animal aggression in the APBT is not breed specific is not being truthful to what this breed was originally bred for.Yes these dogs take great care and responsible ownership.Owners saying oh my dogs get along with all dogs and I take them to dog parks and let them play,then one day something happens,Fido attacks little foo foo,all because people say it's all how you raise them , instead of looking at what this breed was bred for ,for many generations.You can't love animal aggression out of them.To even have 2 dogs and never seperate them while unsupervised is just plain dumb.
Posted: 1:24:35 PM 7/5/2005
Well said Red!
But I'm afraid some people just don't get it!
Ignorance is bliss!
Posted: 1:28:35 PM 7/5/2005
Well said Red!
Posted: 1:31:30 PM 7/5/2005
Thats true rednosered, I had two Great Danes that lived together happily as long as I had owned them. I separated them when they ate because of a little growling though. Both about 3 years old I never thoguht to separate them.
One day I come home and my entire house is a reck. Chairs fallen over, Plants torn from pots, brocken glass and blood everywhere.... My Great Danes had fought to the death. They both lay in the living room surrounded by blood and furr. It was very disturbing to see that my own dogs could be capable of doing this. But you must remember that they are animals.

-Also, they were both males so it must have been a hormonal/territorial thing. So sad for my boys....

***Edited By: DontLikeMuttBreeders on 7/5/2005 6:11:33 PM***
Reason: Forgot to mention both were males
Posted: 6:05:26 PM 7/5/2005
To the OP I am truelly sorry about your dog. Its hard to loose a pet but to loose one in such a tragic way is terrible.

Posted: 6:12:58 PM 7/5/2005
I'm happy Shadow never has even growled at another dog/cat animal before. The cat swats at her face with her paws and makes her whimper, lol.
Posted: 12:19:30 AM 7/6/2005
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Ok, I agree. However with that statement lets list all the other " bred for aggression breeds" . Why is it always JUST the APBT that comes up as the aggressive bad dog... lets rid the whole world of these dogs??
And to suggest one can not “love” aggression out of them… I disagree with. If you love them … you will make the effort to educate yourself on proper care, and proper training.
And if aggression is bred in over generation... over generation it can be bred out!
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Well, call me dumb... because I do not separate my dogs ever.
I have 1 female -spayed Bxer/Shep mix 6 yrs old, 1 female 5 yrs old and 1 male 3yrs old American Stafforshire terriers … the male is neutered and the female is not spayed ( will be… due to other vet visits we must wait) [No I do not breed]. So the female goes into heat … never had any problem with the 3 of them being together…. No aggression, no growling, nothing… they tend to clean each other a bit more during her cycle… buts that is the only change. Am a Firm believer that it is how you lead your pack…
So call me dumb… because being dumb seems to be the way to have well behaved, peaceful animals. Heck, because I rescue abused and neglected animals I have at different points in time other animals in my home as well… and still do not have a problem…
Posted: 12:38:40 AM 7/6/2005
It is very scary

My deepest condolence to you for the lossof your dog

I will be careful when I see a pitbull dog
Posted: 12:51:10 AM 7/6/2005
Great. Just what we need, more people to be scared of pits or dogs classed as pits. Fear breeds bsl of multiple breeds.

dontlikemuttbreeders.. how many dog related fatalities can one have.. seriously?

Posted: 1:23:32 AM 7/6/2005
Orig. post by Rhondakbt...


This was too long to post but it is a very interesting read!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/03/DOGS.TMP
Posted: 6:57:33 AM 7/6/2005
Ivy, as a APBT owner for 10 plus years, and knowing animal aggression in this breed,seeing it first hand my self,and I hope you never do,it's scary.I hope your animals always live in harmony.My theroy, a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.I love my dogs,they are my life,but I always make sure they can not hurt them selves or one another when no one is home to supervise.All it takes is one time,then you may come to a dead dog.
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