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Ysterday was not a good day at the shelter.
Hope bit two people.
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Posted: 12:56:32 PM 7/10/2005
Well yesterday Hope, a red nose pit bull, bit two people. The first time she bit a 13 year old girl on the arm. Hope was being taken out of her cage for a walk and the lady forgot that the girl was outside and Hope ran up to her and bit her. The a pastor came to the shelter, he was looking for his dog, and he put his hand in her cage and she bit his finger, this bite didn't break the skin. Here is a pic of Hope. Idid not see this happen, just saying what I heard. http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=2830797&adTarget=&SessionID=42d152ee48bfabd9-app1&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/11/2005 2:12:43 PM***
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Posted: 1:02:44 PM 7/10/2005
thats a shame hector. what are they going to do with hope now that she has bitten 2 people ? many shelters will not in good conscience adopt out known biters. too many legal issues and fears of being sued.
Posted: 1:05:44 PM 7/10/2005
Actually they aren't going to do anything with her, this shelter never euthanized a dog, except for Brenda she was also a pit bull, she attacked another dog while on a leash. I think they are just going to train with her. Well one thing the pastor really shouldn't stick his hand in her cage. And Hope hates kids, other dogs, and cats. Hope has never bitten me, and I pet her every week.
Posted: 1:09:28 PM 7/10/2005
How awful. I was going to ask what was going to happen to Hope, but you already mentioned that she wouldn't be euthanized. Still, it's a sad situation. How badly did she bite the girl on the the arm? You said that when she bit the pastor, she dind't break the skin, but what about the 13 year old. girl?
Posted: 1:12:19 PM 7/10/2005
She did break the skin on the girl, i think she may puncture wounds or just a red mark and some brusing, but it is not serious enough to go to the hospital. And Hope does have some bite scars, so I think she may have been a fighting dog, her life before the shelter was not good at all.

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/10/2005 4:45:25 PM***
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Posted: 1:13:43 PM 7/10/2005
The girl that got bit by the dog are they going to take your shelter to court? Even though the dog does not like kids the person that was taking the dog out for a walk should be more careful. The pastor I guess I can understand if you have signs saying do not put your fingers in the cage, but if you don't then again the place is liable. That is to bad that a dog is that mean. I wonder who had them how they treated the dog to hate children!
Posted: 1:19:07 PM 7/10/2005
No, they are not taking the shelter to court. Every time Hope is taken out of her cage for a walk the younger volunteers are told to step back, but this girl was right next to her cage, and the girl knew that Hope doesn't like kids.
Posted: 2:40:23 PM 7/10/2005
I am not prejudiced against Pit Bulls, I used to have a couple.

But let me get this right. You have a dog that is a known biter, with a bad background and you are still going to adopt it out? It hates kids and other dogs? What happens if it gets loose?

This dog needs to be pts. I would say this no matter what breed it is. There are too many dogs with good temperments that need homes to waste resources on a dog that is this dangerous.
Posted: 2:59:46 PM 7/10/2005
Hope does not have to be pts, She is good with many adults and some teens including me, she just needs a lot of time to get to like a person. There is already a volunteer that wants to foster her so she gets used to being in a home. There are dogs and cats that don't like kids or other dogs that were adopted out, and I am sure Hope will be adopted soon.

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/10/2005 4:44:31 PM***
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Posted: 4:00:50 PM 7/10/2005
hector it makes me sad when animals are euthanized at the shelters. i really wish there were a solution to the problem., but i have to agree in all good conscience with barligirl. hope doesnt like dogs, cats, or kids. what kind of home can they possibly find for her that she wont have contact with any of them ever ?
a dog like that is a huge liability even without the stigma of the breed. any breed with that temperament is a liability. you said they put another pit down for attacking another dog. i dont understand why then they would not euthanize a dog that is known for hating kids and has bitten one ?

i know the decisions are not up to you. if i could i would direct them to the person responsible for the decision making in your shelter. please dont think i am attacking you personally. i am rather just voicing my concern for this dog and opinion on the logic of keeping hope alive.

***Edited By: scout1 on 7/10/2005 4:02:49 PM***
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Posted: 4:41:18 PM 7/10/2005
This is the first time she bit someone. She has had a very bad life before the shelter. She will not be good in a home with small kids, or cats or dogs. But a house with adults is perfectly fine for her. The bite on the girl is not that serious that she needs to go to a hospital,just a little brusing, and I am not even sure if there are puncture wounds or just red marks. I still think that there is no reason to euthanize her, many of the cats at the shelter bit people seriously and they were adopted out, there is a dog named Moby who also tries to bite people that he doesn't know, and he is still there. As for the other pit, she seriously hurt the other dog. As I already said there is already a volunteer that wants to foster her and she would love to adopt her, so maybe she will adopt her. I have had Nala bite me seriously where I was bleeding a lot. Hope didn't maule the girl, she just bit her on the arm. And the girl knew that Hope isn't fond of kids and she still stood very close to her cage as Hope was being let out. Scout, I don't think you are attacking me and just voicing your opinion.

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/10/2005 4:46:39 PM***
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Posted: 5:32:14 PM 7/10/2005
I'm sorry to hear that , Hector. I hope things work out for you.
Posted: 10:10:12 PM 7/10/2005
Hector,

I saw the photos and she is a beautiful dog. I also saw the shelter is in Jersey. Just one thing, what is the name of the shelter, I plan on staying as far away from it as I can..

I too am an animal lover and don't like to see an animal put down unless the animal is suffering. I know this dog had a rough start in life, but is sounds like she is not handling her baggage very well. I could not sleep at night if I let a biter be adoped out, dog, cat or any other type of pet.

I know this dog is a victim of her early live, but when all is said, she is a biter.
Posted: 10:14:32 PM 7/10/2005
There was a thread a little while ago abotu dog fights..

And it was the majority opinion that dogs from a fighting back ground should be humanily PTS rather than adopted out since they could not ever be 100% rehabilitated...

*shrug* Just remember that that caught my attention..
Posted: 10:16:33 PM 7/10/2005
I wish that they could adopt her out....to someone who could take her to a specialist, or get her some help. Theres always another option.
Posted: 10:17:02 PM 7/10/2005
She is not a biter, you don't know how the dog normally acts, yes she bit two people (had to take it out, seems it wasn't right) I play with her and pet her everyweek and have never gotten bitten and i am only 14 years old.

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/10/2005 10:27:47 PM***
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Posted: 10:26:44 PM 7/10/2005
Hope is a beautiful dog and I think that the Petfinder ad should state that she is not good with other dogs, kids and cats and has bitten.

This dog (probably by no fault of its own) is a DEFINATE danger to society and I don't believe that it can be rehabilitated 100%!

Putting her down before something serious happened to someone would be the right thing to do in her case, unfortunatley.


and you wrote "...it's not like she's mauled anyone"...very irresponsible statement Hector!! That statement absolutely disqusts me!







***Edited By: harleys mama on 7/10/2005 10:31:04 PM***
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Posted: 10:28:26 PM 7/10/2005
It does at the bottom.. no cats, dogs and kids... the lil icons..
Posted: 10:29:49 PM 7/10/2005
well i am sorry for my statment, i am a fan of pits, and i know that other dogs do attack, my friends cocker spaniel attaked her and she had to go to the hospital. and the site does say that she is not good with kids, its at the botton, it has little icons.

***Edited By: HectorLuver3 on 7/10/2005 10:31:40 PM***
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Posted: 10:36:02 PM 7/10/2005
""""and you wrote "...it's not like she's mauled anyone"...very irresponsible statement Hector!! That statement absolutely disqusts me! """"

How is that irresponsible? It ISN'T like she mauled anyone! She just bit someone! I've been attacked by a yorkie, and scent to the hospital, and the dog was not pts under my wish. If it disgusts you, too bad!
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