Im confused. I have a 5 month old eskie pup , and when I got her at 3 months she was a little fluff ball. Now she is not fluffy at all .Her hair got course and is more stuck to her body .I dont understand ... At first I thought it was becuase for 3 weeks I bathed her once a week because she got so dirty . I realized that was to much so I have only bathed her once since then . I figured she fluff back up when the oils were produced again , but nothings changed . If anyhing shes gotten less fluffy , because the fur around her head had stayed fluffy but now is becoming like the rest of her.. So now im wondering do Eskies shed their undercoat in the summer? I dont remember reading anything about it but Idk .. Can anyone help me understand why she is no longer fluffy .. and do you think I should give her fish oil?
***Edited By: luvmetender4eva on 7/18/2005 1:54:06 AM*** Reason: *
Continental .. I to have though maybe she isnt purebred but she has no other characteristics besides her coat that would inidcate so. She only looks like an Eskie.She has the black rims aprund the eyes and he rlips are blakc her eyes are brown and she has the curled tail and is weight standard and everyhting
Wow I was just really thinking and I think I was wrong I believe she actually had papers to be registered with the Ukc not the ckc .. I dont know thta that makes a differecne .. The breeder also told me the parents are registered wiht the Akc but the forms cost money and in the area I bought her most people do not show their dogs , so they would rather not pay , should I contact the breeder and ask for copies of proof that her parents are registered with the akc?
***Edited By: luvmetender4eva on 7/18/2005 2:53:06 AM*** Reason: add
Ok Ill contact the breeder and try to get the papers . she definetley has no lab in her , she only weighs 10 pounds and she is over 5months old , I really sitll believe she is purebred , the picture makes her look weird ,b ut idk maybe im wrong
Oh and thanks for the compliment. I think she is gorgeous , but believe me thta picture doesnt do her justice. She looks akward in it because I could only get her to sit still quick enough to get the shot so not really that great of a pic of her . She looks about 800 times cuter in real life
***Edited By: luvmetender4eva on 7/18/2005 3:28:22 AM*** Reason: add
WOW! You can see her skin right through the coat. I'm not at all familiar with the breed, but I think I'd also check with my vet to be sure she hasn't got some health issue going on while you're contacting the breeder.
My guys also have the double coat and do blow thier entire undercoat especially during the hot summer months. Their coat is mostly the longer, silky outter hair with just a slight undercoat right now.
When fall comes the fuller, thicker undercoat comes back in. While this gives them a less "impressive" coat, it's part of the normal cycle for double coated dogs like my Pyrs. At no time can you see their skin thorugh their coat, ever. The only "skin" you can see is on the muzzle on the pups as it seems to fill in more slowly and on their underbellies. FInding the skin to apply the Front Line Plus is a task.
Here are some pics of my crew after a bathing and thorough grooming and removal of the fluff of their undercoats. They are still damp in these pics as I don't blow dry them. You can see the differences in the coat. While they ARE different breeds (Eskies & Pyrs), they are both double coated white dogs.
eskie pups lose their first coat around 4 mos of age. adn they can look pretty rough after a blow. mine are 2 adn 1.5 yrs and just finished blowing. they both look like they lost weight, but its just the hair. no more fluff makes a sleeker dog.
if you are at all worried about a skin problem, see oyur vet. better safe than sorry.
Eskie, not sure if you looked at the pics of her pup, but there is no undercoat at all and the ottuer coat is so thin that you can see the pink sking shinning through from her front shoulder to her rump.
i looked, pyrmom, but it was hard to see. i saw a pink tint, which is why i would see a vet. but snoopy, my younger eskie, has hair like that. real silky fine, lays flat, and even with an undercoat, its silky smooth. you'd never know he had an undercoat by looking at him.
I don't think your Eskie looks like she's mixed. A vet would be able to tell you if she has a genetic skin condition, if it is from overbathing or if it is just her natural summer coat. I have two eskies. When Kai blew his coat for the first time, I was also doubting whether he was purebred. He looked so bad. His adult coat filled back in but it was smoother than the puppy coat. If her skin looks healthy and there are no bald patches then she is probably just going through her first "blow". If it really concerns you, then a visit to the vet would be your best bet.
shes right. i have never had either of my eskie blow quite that badly, to where its bare or near bare skin, but it can happen. that cound be the pink tint. or, as she said, a skin condition. its worth the peace of mind to ask your vet.
they look like scrawny rats when they are wet, or missig hair :P
***Edited By: pyrmom on 7/18/2005 12:54:03 PM*** Reason: x
I'm thinking she looks mixed also...sorry, Icant quite put my finger on with what yet, but getting the idea she's not pure. If parents are AKC dont understand why they didnt register that way, it doesnt cost much for the breeder to register a litter...possibly because AKC is stricter with registering /DNA etc, and the other clubs arent particular....maybe worried about getting caught? (just an opinion, not intending to imply anything as I dont know the people myself)
I just looked at the closeup again because I was wondering aobut the pinkness , but thats just the picture . She doesnt have that in real life .She actually still has a good amount of long fur its just more stuck to her body. You cant see the skin thru it though. Its just I took the picture with a camera phone and sometimes it wacks things out . It might also be the lgiht refecting off her.When my mom gets home I can use her camera phone again and Ill take a picture of sweeping up some of her fur to show how far it is from her skin.
***Edited By: luvmetender4eva on 7/18/2005 2:45:13 PM*** Reason: *
If there aren't bald spots, I'd say she is 1) not a mix (she looks like an eskie to me) 2) in the terrible puppy slickies in JULY. This is a normal part of growing up. She may not be the best bred eskie out there, and may not be one that is going to carry a really heavy coat.
Some Shelties (my breed) go completely slick at that age. They grow coat later. She has shed out her puppy coat, and has the outer coat of the adult coat growing in, but since it is JULY, she is not growing undercoat yet. She will later. Have patience. It is the undercoat that makes the hair stand off, and the undercoat is for keeping them warm. She doesn't need undercoat now, and doesn't have any. Try not to look at her again until November. (or maybe January). Until then, unless she has bald spots, don't worry about it.
Also, depending on the shampoo you use, it can make them flat too.