my anatolians vary in extremes when it comes to guarding behaviors. i belong to an anatolian email list and from what i have read from others experiences with this breed temperaments can vary widely in how each dog responds to a perceived threat. by nature they are animal aggressive. so yes if they are challenged there will be a fight til one submits and it most likely WILL NOT BE the anatolian shepherd who backs down. so if you have two equally dominant animals you may find a fight to the death and from what i have read it generally is not the anatolian who loses.
i would never recommend them to anyone who is looking for a tough macho guard dog. they are a very unique breed of dog UNLIKE any other breed of dog out there. and with that comes a huge understanding of dog behavior and responsibility.
unless you are more specific about your needs then i cannot in good faith advise you whether this would be an ideal breed for you ro not.
if you want more specific answers to your questions join this email group and ask away. you cannot find a better more knowledgable group about this breed anywhere on the internet.
You want a guard dog? Cool that you just came right out and said it. What will the dog be guarding primarily.. home/family, business, livestock(suppose they are often family too), or other? Not at all passing judgement just curious about where you are coming from and what you're thinking about.
I have a Dogue de Bordeaux, first time owner of this breed. Have owned only large working breeds or equally large herding/lgd in the past. Presently he is a very large and athletic, older puppy just turned 7 months old just a bit ago. I'll just let you know that I know virtually nothing regarding guard dog training or Schutzhund.
Met very few Dogues and the only one I truly know and understand is mine. What I will tell you only regards my example of this "not for everyone" breed. Wait there are probably 155 plus breeds that potentially could be considered "not for everyone" so forget that..LOL.
I'll mainly touch on temperment, behavior and physical characteristics of my guy. Dislikes other dogs period. Were in the country..lots of coyotes and strays so thats just fine with me. Likes non-canine animals. Not very playful but affectionate and trustworthy with kids and familar adults. Very suspicious, wary and aloof with strangers. He is like canine crazy glue with me and my son, constantly trip over him.. he wants to know what is happening at all times without fail. Very high pain threshold..few minor accidents. Very sensitive to hot weather and high humidity. Fantastic and powerful swimmer. Incredibly powerful bite and jaws..already has shredded two Kongs and crushed a cattle femur bone. Not very active in the home..other than following us around. Very active outside the home, especially at night. He is not very excitable, except when another dog is introduced to the scene. Could go on and on but that is what I witness day in and day out. His overall behavior is incredibly consistent, very few surprises thus far.
Again just my dogue and my observations. Have heard accounts and breeder talk...sounds like my pup is unusual but not unheard of regarding his strong dislike of other dogs. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it..LOL. e
***Edited By: obispo44 on 7/22/2005 11:39:35 PM*** Reason: added a couple more thingys
Ok well i guess that both antolians and dogues are out. The dog would be for home protection and guarding my dogs while out in the yard while im not home. An antolian wouldnt work because of the possibility of a confrotation between the dogs would probally result in the lose of all dogs involved. A douge isnt going to work because of heat issues.
If you want to research I suggest exhausting ALL possible avenues. Get the Dog Bibles - the AKC Complete Dog Book, 19th Edition (Revised) and Eyewitness Handbooks: Dogs by David Alderton. Pour over the books cover to cover and make yourself knowledgeable about the 350 plus purebreds and you'll find a significant portion are good guard/watchdogs from Akitas to Rhodesian Ridgebacks. However, the trick is finding one that fits into your lifestyle. Thus, I recommend:
Attending area Dog shows and speaking to various breeders about their breeds. Going to local Dog parks and speaking to various owners about their breeds. Calling breed specific rescues and speaking to rescuers about their breed. Joining breed specific discussion forums online and getting feedback from owners across the country and around the world even. (You'd be surprised, but many of these folks are very knowledgeable and the forums are wasy to find, just type in (insert breed here) forum - e.g. American Eskimo forum, Keeshond forum, Pitbull forum, Boxer forum, Rottweiler forum, German Shepherd forum, Boston Terrier forum, Akita forum, Labrador Retriever forum, Golden Retriever forum, etc...)
Hopefully, you'll really do your research. Good luck!
Thanks for the advice kazyhond. Ive been researching this for awhile and i havent been able to find a dog that will fit my puposes yet. I have a pit already and they make the worst guard dogs ever. Thats the whole reason im getting a guard dog. To protect my pit and future pits from people trying to come in my yard and stealing them.
That sounds like it would be a hard thing to do... If the dogs you currently own couldn't safely be left alone with a new dog, (I remember that they get along with each other but not new dogs) that means they would be separated from the new Guard dog when you're not there... And if they're separated from each other, how could the guard dog keep anyone away from the other dogs who are in a totally separate enclosure?
true pits and i had this discussion many moons ago. she was thinking of getting another breed to guard her pitbulls also. you may wwant to see if she ever figured out what to do in her situation.
after reading what i have originally posted i just want to clarify that a lgd is not a breed that can be taught to attack. meaning they have a very independent thinking mind and they determine what is a threat and what isnt. so your idea of a threat may not always be what they deem one and vice versa. also they cannot be taught to attack on command, which is why they are a horrible choice for sports such as schutzhund and the other k-9 sports along those lines.
in order for a lgd to be a succcessgful guardian there has to be a certain amount of respect equally between the dog and its "flock." its flock can be comprised of just about anything, even other dogs, but maybe not your particualr types of dogs.
My dogs dont get along with other dogs thats true. They can handle puppies though. Most of the dogs they come in contact with are dogs that are chained up in thier yard or that somebody has one out on a leash, or dogs that are just running loose. My dogs especially daisy and porky do not like to be growled at by other dogs. It drives them nuts which is what normally happens when they pass another dog.
When i get a guard dog it will come to me as a puppy. My dogs would be supervised with it at all times until the dog was big enough to handle itself. The guard puppy wouldnt be left alone with them until i could trust them together and like i said before the guard dog could handle itself.
My biggest problem in the guard dog search is that i need to find one that isnt an alpha type dog. It would need to be a dog that could handle being lower on the totem pole. My husky/chow is the top of the pack under me. He doesnt allow anyone to get out of line and if they do he wont hesitate to correct them.
Im not looking for a dog that will attack on command. Hell i dont even care if the dog bites an intrudder. I want a dog that will scare the crap out of anyone even thinking about entering my yard. If the dog decides to bite after the person gets into the yard than thats ok. Preferably the dog will sound off and let me know something is up.