3 weeks ago, I needed help with this same question. The advice I received were great, although, nothing has helped. My 11 week old puppy barks and pees in his crate every night. It seems he barks for hours and then might fall asleep for 30 minutes and then the barking starts all over again. We have been taking him out to use the bathroom every 4 hours. We "try" to ignore him the rest of the night. We have tried covering his crate with a blanket, leaving the tv on, having him sleep in our bedroom, having a long play session before bed to tire him out.
My husband and I are so frustrated. I called the vet and she said that I was doing everything right and to just ignore. It's hard to ignore when NOBODY is getting ANY sleep. I've been in tears over this.
Am I doing something wrong? Will this every end? We thought long and hard before getting a new puppy. We read books on training and thought we were somewhat prepared - Boy, were we wrong! We have had puppies before and none of our other dogs ever did this. Could it be the Golden Retriever breed?
Wow, it sounds like you have tried all the right things. Could it maybe be separation anxiety from not being around mom and the litter? Maybe if you got him from a breeder you could try a blanket or stuffed animal that has the smell of the mom and litter on it?
Also I recently read about a toy that has a similated heartbeat sound that helps to calm pups at sleeping time. I am sorry that I can't come up with the name of the product right now... but I will try to find the thread. Not sure if it was here or on another forum.
This is going to sound really weird but have you had his hearing checked? Deaf dogs are NOTORIOUS barkers....
The easiest way to check this is to have him distracted with his back to you and snap your fingers. (far enough away that he can't feel the vibration or the wind from the snap) if he responds, then it's not his hearing but if he doesn't......get it checked immediately.
Also, is he in his crate during the day, too? He may just have enough of the crate and need a break. I know it's *against crating rules* but try and gate him off in the kitchen or bathroom at night. He may just need that extra space, especially if he's cooped up during the day AND night.
I agree w/the blankie, toy, etc.
Have you tried a Buster Cube? It's a cube toy that is filled w/kibble that will keep his attention trying to get the pieces of kibble out....something to occupy his time. Or get a natural bone and fill it with peanut butter or cheese...
Thanks for the advice.... yes, we bought a toy called the gong, were you put a treat inside. This occupies him for about 5 seconds. We have tried peanut butter and cheese.
His hearing seems to be ok. I do have an appointment at the vet tomorrow. I will mention that to her.
No, he is out of his crate all day. I am a stay at home mom and the only time he goes in there during the day is when I have to run some errands. Maybe 2 hours at the most.
I did get a towel with his mother's scent on it. We used that the first couple of nights. Did not help, plus, he peed on it so I had to wash it.
I think I will try the stuffed animal with the heartbeat to see it that helps. I am willing to try anything.
I talked to the vet about sleeping outside of his crate. She said not to do it because I would be letting the puppy "win". I think I might try it anyway - If I have to clean up pee in the morning it will better than not getting any sleep.
I have read if the pup continues to carry on in the crate use the shaker can correction (but out of his site). When he is barking shake the can. He should associate the loud noise with his barking. I really don't know if this works, I never had that problem with any of my Goldens, and I hope I don't have it with my new pup(just home and 8 weeks old).
Is his crate a wire or plastic crate? If it's wire, try covering it and if it's plastic try getting a wire one. Some dogs freak being enclosed in spaces and some can't stand being able to see all around them and not participate.
Also get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 of white vinegar and 1/4 of water and everytime he barks, squirt him in the face and say "QUIET" it's a nasty taste to them and then praise him like crazy while he's quiet.
I would also try to keep him in the crate a little bit while you're home, too. And reinforce when he's good and quiet with praise and treats. Eventually he will learn it's a good place to be...
Yes, we have tried the shaker can ( a soda can with pennies in it) and the vinger in a spray bottle. We have read the book "Dogs on the Couch" for puppy training. In there they said to use them. My poor puppy smells like vinegar all the time now. I don't think that is working either.
We have a wire crate. We cover the sides and back with a blanket, trying to give a "den feeling".
My dogs are not crate trained. I wanted to say that right from the start. We tried with Riki when she was eight weeks old. No dice if we wanted any sleep. She sleeps next to the bed now, but at nine weeks old she would sleep between my husband and I on the King size waterbed. We put puppy pads down and she was very good about using them. She has since learned how to wake us up if she needs to go out in the middle of the night. Yes, I've had to clean up messes in the morning, but it's much easier to deal with on a full nights sleep. She eventually decided to move to the dog bed on the floor and only occasionally tries to sleep on the bed. We did the same thing with Raja at four months when we got her and Romi at five months. They all sleep on the floor now and have crated at my friends house with no problems. I know this breaks the crating rules, but sometimes you just need a good nights sleep. I would say to make sure you wear him out good if you're going to try my way. A worn out puppy can be a very contented sleeping partner. LOL.
Another poster had suggested a while ago when someone else was having a problem with their pooch barking...to put a clock next to their crate, the sound of the "tick, tock" is soothing to them and also gives them a steady noise.
My dog ChiChi was the same way and it went on for hours at a time...it almost sounded as if someone was killing her when she was barking, but I knew she was fine. Eventually, she got over it...we were all tired, but it took a while for her to get used to the crate...now she'll go in there on her own for some peace and quiet.
Yuki can be annoying, but not the extent that you're describing with your Golden. Sounds like you have been doing everything right...only time will tell..Good luck
I would bring the crate in the living area so the puppy has access to it all day. Get yourself some smokie bones that are hollow in the middle.Get a large one not a little one. Get a couple and fill them up with yogurt and freeze it. Give the puppy bone time in his crate, with the door open(do not close it yet). So the bone gets put in the crate, if he brings it out, put it back in. The only place hes allowed his bone is in the crate. when he goes in the crate, throw soft treats in the back of the crate, to reward for going in. Verbal praises are good to. If the puppy starts to settle and chew, give him say 10-15 minutes and then take it away, trade for a treat.You want him to look forward to the bone next time.Do this ritual everyday for practice. When and if the puppy chews in the crate, leave the room for quick seconds and come back, increaseing the time out over time. This will start to train the puppy to be comfortable being alone. Then this bone can be brought out of the freezer and offered at bed time.
I will be the first to admit that having a puppy is like having a baby.
I crate train all my dogs as pups. The only thing that I did was sleep on the floor for 3-4 nights beside the crate and everynight i'd move a few more feet away.
It's hard, but it works. Now my puppy cries to get in there when she is tired. Really.
I crate trained until about 5-6 months. I could of probably taken it away sooner but I thought I would keep it up until after she got fixed so she had a place to go relax.
I think you should honestly try it for another few days and if it is not working for all of you give it up.
Maybe you can get the puppy a doggy bed and put it on the floor beside you ???? I know it is not what you really want but...... or try just outside the bedroom door.
You have tried everything that I can think of.
Oh, and if the puppy is peeing in the crate thats not good. They will do that as a last resort and I got my one year old shepherd at 6 weeks and she held it all night. I would get that checked out to make sure that there is no infection. Maybe that's why shes barking.
***Edited By: aisha on 7/27/2005 6:32:07 PM*** Reason: ?
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You for all of your help. Your advice has been wonderful. I'm a mother of four boys (under the age of 9) so you would think that I would be used to not getting any sleep. It is so nice to be able to ask questions to people who know what we are going through.
GOOD NEWS....We put the crate in our boy's room and had them sleep on the floor in sleeping bags next to it. When Shadow fell asleep at 8p.m. tonight. I picked him up and put him in his crate. He is still asleep with NO BARKING. It is now 11:30 p.m. WHY AM I STILL UP?!?
I do have an appointment with the vet tomorrow. I think I will have her check his hearing and make sure he doesn't have a bladder infection.