Honestly people, give the girl a break. She had bad experience and is sharing it to HELP others, not annoy them. If you don't agree, fine. LET IT GO!
Anyway, Im not too sure about the greenies myself, even though I do give them. Its their ability to hold moisture and soften and become sticky, which makes them a potential choking hazard. A soft sticky greeny can become lodged in the throat and be difficult to remove, but I see that to be not much different than a rawhide. (However rawhides don't get as sticky) Its all in how big a chunk your dog swallows. If your dog inhales them, you're probably better off with natural beef bones.
I would like everyone to BAN GREENIES from their dog's diet. Yes they can choke on anything, but why give them something that is such a HAZARD to begin with. Six weeks, thousands of dollars later, I still have my dog but we have been through hell because of this product.
My dog had a piece stuck at the base of her esophagus and had to have an esophagoscopy to push it into her stomach, it caused severe damage to her throat and she now has a feeding tube so her throat can heal. SIX WEEKS later she still has a feeding tube and we are not done w/this yet. We obviously love our 2 yr old dog very much and have tried everything we can to save her, this product is dangerous. The doctors at the Veterinary specialists we see have told us of other horror stories involving Greenies, they do not recommend them at all.
alldogslover, thank you for the chuckle . I think we all need it :-)
First all, Mafiaprincess was ting to do something nice and share free geenie samples. If you don't want to feed them to your dog, then you don't have to. No one is forcing you to, but we need to all sit back and take a deep breath instead of iinsulting each other.
As for tomatoes, no, they are on the dangerous foods list. Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomato plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe.
Mike, thanks for posting. I saw your story on another forum. I was inclined to copy it here, but didn't want to keep pressing the issue.
I was feeding greenies quite regularly. I won't anymore and I think we've seen enough proof to back that up.
Remember, people smoked for years before it was known that they cause cancer. Greenies are relatively new. I think the truth will slowly become more apparent. I'm glad to have been tipped off before any damage was done.
To all who have lost pets to choking incidents I am truly sorry for your loss. However, I do feel that we as "parents" need to take some responsibility in the treats, foods and toys we give to our beloved pets. Greenies specifically lists on all of their packaging a "choose the right size for your dog" chart if you will. I was guilty of feeding Chico my Min Pin too large of a Greenie until I actually read the package. Aside from the choking hazard of feeding him a treat that was too big for his size, there was an issue with calorie & fat intake, since he is such a small dog and I was feeding him way too large of a bone for his weight. Chico loves his Greenies and now eats the appropriate size 1-2 times a week. I am careful to also monitor him (even though he doesn't like it) while he enjoys his treats to make sure he doesn't try to swallow a large piece he has bitten off.
I believe in the product, Chico had HORRIBLE breath before we started treating with Greenies regularly. His teeth look better and his breath is better too. He has never had a vomitting episode, but we did experience a few green stools. My husband is in the medical field and said that the discoloration of his stool was from the chloryphyll in the Greenies.
Anyways, again I am sorry for your loss, but owner's must accept some responsibility for their pets and the toys and treats we give them.
CHICO You talk of "choking" MY DOG DID NOT CHOKE TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my dog died from a surgery that was necessary to extract the partially digested greenie from his small intestines. my dog's intestines had turned necrotic. they had to take 3 1/2 feet of his intestines out.
AGAIN, WE FED THE RIGHT SIZE, WE WATCHED HIM CHEW, WE WATCHED HIM SWALLOW. Problem solved, right? Well, my dog is dead. The problem is that this product did not digest or break down. I recall their website claiming that the product is "highly digestibele' Please tell me why a productt that claims to be "highly digestible" needs to be extracted from my dog. Even though the piece was fully chewed? CHICO do your homework please. Read up on this product and what people across the country are saying. There are concerns everywhere, and they're not "choking" concerns.
I agree Mafia, and I repeat what I said in my previous comment, #73,
"First all, Mafiaprincess was trying to do something nice and share free geenie samples. If you don't want to feed them to your dog, then you don't have to. No one is forcing you to, but we need to all sit back and take a deep breath instead of insulting each other. "
I know of a dog who choked and died a piece of rawhide, but that's not why I don't give it to my pup. Rawhid comes out the same way it goes in and isn't digested either. Anything your dog puts in his or her mouth is a potentional choking hazard.
We have all been warned of hazards of Greenies, and I'm sure everyone is sorry for those whom lost beloved pets. I've lost pets myself, so I know how it hurts, but we really need to move on and let this rest ... please.
I was not referring to you particularly when I was talking of choking hazards. I was speaking to the majority of others in this forum that had had problems with choking. I am sorry for your loss, I know it's hard to get over losing someone you aren't ready to have leave you.
I have done my research on the web and the majority of what I find is your story on every forum. (I have seen others, but none nearly as bad as yours). Most of the others that I read were people claiming that it was the fault of the treat, but that was after they said they fell asleep and were woken up by choking or they treated their dog before they left for work or something of the like. You state clearly that you watched your dog chew the bone completely. However, I don't understand how the "toothbrush" end could be clearly seen if your dog had chewed it completely as you said. I was not here to attack anyone as you have me. Just as you are, I am here to inform. I am sorry you had a horrific experience with them.
I hope you are able to see through the fog and remember the good times you had with Burt.
I would merely like to clarify a point or two. Those of us who have personally experienced these problems are not out for "payback" or "revenge". The simple fact of the matter is this, we are concerned for the health and well-being of other's pets, and would be remiss if we DID NOT share our experiences.
As a society, we tend to be influenced by certain aspects of marketing. 1. We have a tendency to believe that a higher price is indicative of a higher quality product. 2. We have a certain amount of "blind faith" in a company's claims to the virtues of their product. 3. When we follow a manufacturer's directions as to portion size, we expect that portion size to be correct for our animals.
When I purchased Greenies, I did so at a vet's office. I was specifically instructed to get the petite size, which I did. The result was a near-fatal choking, colitis and vomiting. I was puzzled by the amount of the product that came back up, inasmuch as it appeared to be more than what had been ingested. The product had quite obviously expanded, once introduced to a fluid environment.
The company's response to this was to send me the Greenies bits. (And to admonish me for the fact that my dog is a "gulper" and should not have been given the size THEIR OWN packaging instructed me to give... Go figure.)
Oddly enough, when my friends' Golden Retriever choked and the company was notified, they were also sent a bag of the bits. These would be the same bits that are suggested for dogs 10 pounds and under. Theirs, by the way, is not a pygmy Golden, and weighs substantially over 10 pounds.
I had occassion to speak to close to twenty vets offices this week, in preparation for a news segment regarding this issue, and DID NOT FIND ONE who was unfamiliar with Greenies deaths. Now, how's that for proof?
I have to take issue with a company that makes claims they do not stand behind, cannot substantiate, and then shifts the blame to the consumer.
My friends who lost their young, healthy Samoyed are beside themselves and their vet is incensed over her needless death. When the Greenies piece expanded, it perforated her bowel and sepsis ensued.
Yes, they may be good for the teeth, but I've got to tell you, unless your pet has a heartbeat, it just really doesn't matter how fresh its breath is, now does it?
Make your own choices. That's what this country is all about. Those of us who are sensitive to this issue are only attempting to put all the facts out there so that yours can be an informed decision.
thanks for that. i do remember the good times that i had with burt. that's what keeps me going. and, i'm sorry if you perceived my post to be aggressive. . it's just that many people don't separate the "choking" issue with the "failure to digest a product that states that it's 'fully digestible" issue.
my dog should not have died. plain and simple. this was a preventable death.
the doctor placed in my had a chunk of greenie that burt ate. i recognized the shape, color and contours of that of the toothbrush end of the greenie. the question is not why I can recognize the product, but WHY, regardless of how much it was chewed or is not chewed, the product has did not digest. and, no this is not an isolated case so, i'm sorry maggie but i cannot move on. my pet died. not yours. put yourself in my shoes and ask if you would just walk away from this. there are plenty of cases of this happening. at what point does it effect you? must it happen to your dog? its just not true that this is only happening to me. i am happy to share with you or anyone else a lot of experiences that people have shared with me.