First off this is a very old topic, second, you can belmae the state of a dogs well being on the AKC all you want it just isnt true. The AKC uses the standards set by the parent clubs, ie. Pomeranian Club of America, these are the same standards that the continental club should be using.

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holidayzbliss, I think you need to go reserch your info regarding the start of the American Kennel Club. If of all a dog was not just given registration. Each dog had to come from a recogized breed. First each breed seeking entry into the AKC must first organize a Parent club, which includes setting those regulation regarding whether the bookd are opened or closed. Not the AKC. A parent club and it's membership can vote to re open the books as well, but it must be done based on a set of by-laws set by each paerent club. Each dog must have a traceable pedigree and each dog must have an assigned number. As with my breed most of our foundation stock came from hunt clubs in England. Each of those foundation dogs, had to be assigned a permanant number along with a pedigree. There are many breeds who's stud books remain open yet today. I am not going sit her and type all the info regarding this subject, well because it just takes to long.
Any club with on open registry all the time like the CKC(not the Canadian Kennel Club) or the UKC(both of them) are for Profit Kennel Clubs. Clubs such as the AKC which is considered a Closed Kennel Club(because books can only be opened via the parent club) are considered a Not for Profit Kennel Club. They are only a record keeping club. They are also a governing body to oversee sanctioned events for the fancy and they also provide funding for research. Of coarse between the two UKC kennel Clubs, the United Kennel Club clearly surpasses the Universal Kennel Club.
If you really want to find out the legitity of a Kennel Club, go see which ones are recognized Internationally with other countries. AKC is the only one from the United States that is a Internationally recognized Kennel Club thoughout the world.

Most of you spouting off against they AKC are so totally clueless. Why don't you take the time to educate yourself regarding these issues before you speak. No one in the AKC politically or otherwise cares if your dog is of show quality. Of coarse we like to breed for the betterment of the breed. But that is why the AKC also sanctions so many preformance events, for those of you who love purebred dogs, but are not interested in Conformation. They also issue ILP numbers for those of you who have unregistered dogs or registered with different clubs but are a good representation of the breed and would like to compete in preformance events.

For the person who did not get there AKC papers with there Shitzu, you need to contact the AKC. A breeder can be fined and put on suspension for not providing the proper documentation with the sale of a purebred AKC puppy.

For the person with the Mastiffs, it is not up to the AKC to allow you registration. It is up to the Parent club of your breed. More than likely they do not have any plans to open there registry books. I do believe the Masiff gene pool is very large and diverse. So there is no need for them to open the books. If you wanted your dogs registered AKC, then you should have sought out a reputable AKC breder for your desired breed.

AND THE AKC DOES NOT SET THE BREED STANDARD FOR ANY BREED. IT IS EACH INDIVIUAL BREED CLUB, known as the parent club. Clubs have committees that work with the membership on these issues. A breed standard can only be changed or revised every 5 years. If you want to see change in your breeds standard, then join your parent club and become active in the workings regarding your club and your breed. Instead of sitting on a forum bashing things you know nothing about.

I bought a ContKC registered Yorkie Terrier a couple years ago, and although I love him and he is a great dog. He is not the $1000.00 dog I paid for. He turned out to be almost 15lbs, has huge floppy ears and now looks like he amy be mixed with a cocker spaniel.
I personally would never buy another ContKC registered dog again.
Please be careful with ContKC registered dogs, you never know what you are getting. Make sure you see both parents, and buy from a reputable breeder not a pet store.

I didn't read through all these posts, but I was told by a breeder recently that CKC does indeed mean Continental Kennel Club but it was changed when the Canadian Kennel Club and the US Kennel Club merged into one... the parents of my puppies are AKC registered, but the puppies are only CKC registered...

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The reason your dogs are most likley only ConKC regestered is because the parents were sold on a limited registeration thru AKC.Which means they were never to be bred.And puppies from them can not be registered thru AKC.
ConKC was made so people could register there pets and mix breeds.
Puppymiller and BYB's us this registery more then any other.

Way to go Rotylr! I couldn't agree more. I think the reason the ConKC and other bogus registies do so well is b/c disreputable breeders breed their dogs w/ limited registration (if a breeder checks the limited box, it means the dog shouldn't be bred) or get suspended from the AKC. If someone is willing to lie to the person they bought a dog from, how can they be trusted when they are selling puppies? I'm not saying all ConCK breeders are dishonest. I have noticed that quite a few ConKC breeders who want to be in the top teir are beginning to seek out AKC dogs b/c they know they will never get true respect with the ConKC.

The "breeder" term used loosely, flat out lied to you run away IMO. The true CKC and AKC did not merge, they are 2 separate kennel clubs, but both being reputable registries will accept each others dogs. The ConKC used that name so they could confuse people who thing they are the Canadian Kennel Club, thus reputable, which they are not. It was the CKC who forced the ConKC to have to change their name to the ConKC, but I have yet to see one of their "breeders" to follow suit.

Well, I guess it is my turn to jump in nowI have been breeding for over 15 years now and have always used AKC. AKC in just the past 5 years has seemed to get some stricter guidelines and the fees are getting higher. I think with the PAWS, you are going to see a lot more people switch to CKC. Most buyers don't care about a registy, because they are mainly looking for a pet only. They never even bother to register the dog. 9 out 10 buyers only registered the pups and most the time it was me on the ones I kept back. AKC charges the breeder $25.00 to register the pups and then another fee per pup. CKC does not charge the breeder at all. All of my dogs are double registered with both. I only buy AKC myself, because I want to be able to research bloodlines. AKC does not mean you are getting a perfect dog. If your puppy has 2 heads or 8 legs, they will still register it if the parents are AKC registered. People assume if you are not using AKC then you are either a puppy mill or BYB. I am by no means either one and as a responsible breeder, put a lot of money into all my adults and each puppy to make sure they are healthy. I worried once I started switching over to CKC, but have never had a problem with any of the buyers really caring. The main thing is not the registry, but doing your research on the breeder itself.

I have a purebreed Yorkie and he was APRI but the people I got him from was suppose to give me his papers but never did, they moved away and I have no clue where they moved to and I have no clue on how to get more papers for him as I only know him as Baily and not the rest of his regisetered name so it looks as if I will have no other choice but to go with the CKC registering. Don't you think that there may be a lot of different situations like mine out there that people have no other choice when you can't get ahold of the original documents? If someone has a solution to my problem than please let me know because I know of no other way but going CKC.. Can anyone help me???

ckc or akc doesn't really matter to me i raised an akc registed male akita and loved him till he passed away 3/7/09 at the age of 10 I recently purchased a ckc registed akita male pup and honestly i can tell very little difference in the two dogs. the one that passed away was very laid back and loving and this new pup is showing the same temperment. Papers don't make the dog heart does.

Well, I recently emailed ContKC and told them I was considering registering with them in order to keep people from beating me to the punch (limited AKC, but going to another registry and going unlimited and breeding DESPITE) and could I limit my puppies with them. There doesn't seem to be much on the site about it. They emailed back very quickly and were quite nice and said there is some breeder's program that you ask about and if you qualify you ARE able to limit rights on your pups . So now I gotta find out about the details and see how easy/hard it is to qualify.