Shinyblackpit...I admire your crusade but it ain't gonna happen. Even if Pet Stores stopped selling puppies, there will still be puppy mills. It's the law of supply and demand. So, let those who want to purchase puppies from Pet Stores do so. If you had your way, more innocent pups would be PTS or stuck in a shelter. Puppy mill bred or not, they are still living animals and deserve a chance at a good life.
Dang, I'm gone a few days & the trolls come out! I hope dogknowitall, allwhitepit, ilovemydane, andyandjanw have been banned for using "caps lock", & for disrespecting others. Dang this is getting old!!!!
I haven't ever stopped anyone from purchasing their pets anywhere they choose. But if I know someone who plans to purchase one from a pet store, I do let them know, gently, not in a rude manner, where those dogs come from, simply because they might want to know beforehand that the money they pay for that pup goes to the people who run the puppy mills. Also because they might want a well-bred dog if they are going to be paying a large price. I know I would want someone to tell me if I were about to buy from somewhere where I was likely to get a sick dog with genetic problems.
If they know all that and still want to purchase from a pet store, then they will do so. But I'd feel bad if I knew what they were going to do, knew they didn't know about the hideous conditions of puppy mills or even the existence of them, and sat by and said nothing at all. Like watching a car about to run over someone who's back is turned and not yelling "watch out!" If it were me about to buy from a pet store, I would want someone to inform me so that I could make a better choice.
***Edited By: shinyblackpit on 8/26/2005 1:18:23 PM*** Reason: asdfasdfsadf
I would like to respond to the idea that breeding a mixed breed contributes to the death of dogs in shelters. When I was looking for a dog, the first place I checked was the local shelters. The majority of breeds there were Pitt Bulls. I don't wish to start a discussion on Pitt Bull behavior, however, I would not feel safe having one in my home. The other dogs did not apeal to me for various reasons, ie., they weren't good with children or other pets, the were too small for my taste, had health problems I wouldn't be able to take care of, didn't have the physical look I wanted, ect. I would not have adopted a pet from any of the shelters I visited, so guess what, we don't have a dog right now. We are now looking at getting a Labradoodle beacause we did not find the right dog at a shelter. That is in no way contributing to the death of a shelter dog because we wouldn't have adopted one any way. If they had a dog we wanted there, then we would have just adopted it, but they didn't.
One place that you might try is http://petfinder.com . You can get both purebreds and mixes there. If you want a mix, look under each of the breeds in the mix and they will have mixes of that breed listed as well.
I love my pit bull and his "pit bull behavior" in my home. I have heard that it is sometimes tough to find a smaller breed or mix in the shelters, but I thought labs and lab mixes were pretty easy to come by? Anyway, hopefully petfinder will help. Good luck in finding a dog that's right for you.
Be aware, and I know that it's not easy to notice, that this post is from 2005 so the OP is no longer here.
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'm a senior Biology/pre-med student at GC&SU,and I have been a member of this forum for a long time now, and I usually don't post a response to the ones about the mixed breeds because my opinion had already been stated by someone, but I do have question for the people that think it is wrong with mixing breeds of dog! Do you think that is wrong that people of two differet races have "mixed race children? I do not want to offend or judge anyone!
No i dont think it is wrong to have mixed children. I have mixed grandchildren from both my son and my daughter. Although if you are going to compare mixing dogs with mixing humans, that theory does not relate. With humans there is just a difference of color. With dogs its a difference of totally seperate breeds of dogs. If you were going to use the dogs and humans comparison, mixing different breeds, would compare more to breeding humans with monkeys.
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Thanks for the comment! I was not comparing dogs and humans to each others! i posted that because my girlfriend is sitting beside me and she was reading some of the post and she asked me the reason I love reading this stuff so much! She told me that it just seemed that me(being mix raced) would feel offended, but i didn't because we were talking about dogs, and people have their own opinion.
oh and by the way it is actually more practical to compare two races of people mating to two breeds of dogs mating then comparing mixed breed dogs to mating a human to a monkey because a Monkey and a human are not part of the same species which means that they are reproductively isolated. All dogs are part of the smae species originating form the wolf, and different races of humans are part of the same species!
I'm not sure how someone could go from looking at the shelter (only once, correct? Shelters can get new dogs pretty rapidly; if you are going to be looking for the "right dog" anyway you could easily just search petfinder for what your looking for every couple of days to see the new dogs that come into until you find the "right dog".) to wanting a "labradoodle? =/
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I just dont like it because people think by calling them fancy, little names they can sell them for lots of money and thats not true! A dog with more than one breed in its history is a mutt. Period. I mean i dont have anything aginst them calling them that because its their dog whatever you want to call your dog you can but when people go and try to sell them for $300, $400 bucks for a mutt it makes me mad. Why go buy a regular old mutt for that when you could go to a shelter where there are MANY dogs who need adopted, for alot less, and just call them something spiffy too! It just doesnt make sense!
"Dogs arent our best friends...were their best friends" "People can think what they want about Pits...but only a true owner knows!" htt
Scientifically proven there are no such breed considered a pure bred because they all came from the canines that have been here before we got here. There's been hybrids before there were domestic breeds. The only thing that really resembles the wolf in BC are the Malimutes, Huskies, and then the Samoyeds. Research! The scientists just can't figure out and neither can on where the Poodle came from? Whatever the breed, if you're a dog lover. Then they shouldn't be judged because of their breed.
I have a little kitten that's 5 mnts old and he's a Flame Point Balinese/Manx. Oh, what a hotty he is and he knows it too. He does back flips when he's not flipping his toys, he'll tap you with his
I didnt understand what the big deal was until I talked to a breeder at PetSmart. Pretty much every penny she gets out of her purebreds has been spent on testing, preventative care, etc. She makes absolutely no profit and only does it for love of the breed. Designer breeders however will charge the exact same rates but do not do the same testing, care, etc. Sure some will give them a round of shots and maybe de-worm them, but it doesnt cost 4,5,6,7,8, hundred or more to do that. Genetic testing and all the other tests required for purebreds are expensive.
So if you have 800 dollars would you rather spend it on a dog that has been tested, treated, and given first class service or would you rather have a dog that has had maybe a round of shots but has spent its life outside in a kennel or worse all while the breeders live it up on the income their dogs bring. Maybe we should have puppy labor laws.
Id have less of a problem with it if breeders would do it for free or only charge the amount for the first round of shots, which is what, 20 bucks? That would prove that they are doing it for the love of the "breed" and not for the money. Yes I know they are not an actual breed, I was using that term losely.
Oh and there alot of dog sites that find the breeds or mixes of dogs you would like to have in your area. The only difference is that you could have the satisfaction of knowing you saved a dogs life. Also alot of organizations have given vet care, shots, and fixed the dog so the fee you pay would cover those services. You would pretty much get the dog for free. And usually there are just as many puppies available as adult dogs.
Save a shelter dog! Often you can find the same mixed breed dogs in shelters. And they always have the best personality ever. Wouln't you rather SAVE a dog then just buy one?!? I have 31 dogs and they are ALL rescue dogs but two that my friend bought me, and the rescue dogs are more loving,cuddley, protective over you and the fact that I asved the rescue dogs makes me happy every time I see them, I got my dogs off of death row, (meaning they were going to be put down the next couple of days)
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